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Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by afiori »

rglullis wrote: post #102
beAbU wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been aware about the perfectly reusable lithium batteries inside these disposable vapes, which is egregious enough. But the one in the FTA comes with a full fat microcontroller and USB-C connector! I'm not clear if these connectors are accessible outside or if you need to break open the packaging before being able to get to it. Like you said: "Many layers of stupid are present here" All that hardware must surely…

Between (a) component that costs tens of cents to mass produce and can be bought off the shelf and is reusable vs (b) component that needs actual experienced electronics engineers working on a single-use design that can not be repurposed later, I think we'd see that (a) might end up being less wasteful.

> can not be repurposed later

whether it can be repurposed is worth little in being wasteful if >99% go to the landfill.

> I think we'd see that (a) might end up being less wasteful.

Monetarily? sure. Environmentally? unlikely

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by [deleted] »

grues-dinner wrote: post #88
NoiseBert69 wrote: post #86

I bought a few hundred Puyas for my lab as stock for projects. They are quite capable and very cheap uCs to have around.

Apparently they're cheap because they're a flash memory company that bolts a little CPU onto their own flash, rather than a CPU company having to then buy the more expensive flash with a markup.

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Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by Findecanor »

ffsm8 wrote: post #97
Mistletoe wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will the Butlerian Jihad find all the vapes?

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The word "jihad" has a wider meaning than "holy war". It would better be translated into "worthy struggle" — with "worthy" being very subjective.

Islam is in fact the largest religion (by worshippers) in the world today, so Frank Herbert's assumption that a culture derived from it would be dominant in a future society is just extrapolation.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by dijit »

rglullis wrote: post #102
beAbU wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been aware about the perfectly reusable lithium batteries inside these disposable vapes, which is egregious enough. But the one in the FTA comes with a full fat microcontroller and USB-C connector! I'm not clear if these connectors are accessible outside or if you need to break open the packaging before being able to get to it. Like you said: "Many layers of stupid are present here" All that hardware must surely…

Between (a) component that costs tens of cents to mass produce and can be bought off the shelf and is reusable vs (b) component that needs actual experienced electronics engineers working on a single-use design that can not be repurposed later, I think we'd see that (a) might end up being less wasteful.

I don't follow the logic.

Because humans are expensive? Or because we can maybe re-use the components if an (expensive) human comes and retrieves the components?

Sorry for being dumb here.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by palata »

x187463 wrote: post #85

Re-using this sort of device is super cool. I can imagine a post-apocalyptic scenario where a city is run on a hodgepodge of random computing devices like this. I will say, though, disposable vapes with microcontrollers inside (and even full games and screens from recent reporting) are an egregious source of e-waste. Many layers of stupid are present here.

The fact that selling such a thing is profitable means that we lack regulations somewhere.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by SXX »

Talking of cheap and powerful devices one can also look at Chinese UZ801 4G LTE (Qualcomm MSM8916) dongles. They cost like only $4-5 and pack quite impressive HW: 4GB eMMC, 512MB RAM, actual 4G modem sometimes with 2 sim switching support. Since it's actually old Android SOC there is even GPU and GPS in there. And a lot of work was already done on supporting them:

https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Zhihe_series_LTE_dongles_...

https://github.com/OpenStick/OpenStick

So yeah if you looking for hardware platform for weird homelab projects that's can be it.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by Dilettante_ »

RedShift1 wrote: post #82
ivape wrote: post #80

I wonder how much cost would be added if they included a small usb storage drive in those things. You could incentivize non-disposal because people would have a million of those things. It’s really hard to quite vaping btw.

> It’s really hard to quite vaping btw. They put addictive stuff in vapes, because of course they do.

The Addictive Stuff™ is literally the core feature of the item. Your comment makes it sound like the producers are nefariously and covertly adding nicotine to a product which normally would not have any? It's like saying "These scoundrel breweries! They're making beer that gets you drunk!"

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by palata »

spicyusername wrote: post #123
x187463 wrote: post #85

Re-using this sort of device is super cool. I can imagine a post-apocalyptic scenario where a city is run on a hodgepodge of random computing devices like this. I will say, though, disposable vapes with microcontrollers inside (and even full games and screens from recent reporting) are an egregious source of e-waste. Many layers of stupid are present here.

It's a shame negative externalities like this are basically impossible to include in the up-front price.

I feel like a law saying "don't put electronics in disposable products" would do the job.
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