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Apple Notes Will Gain Markdown Export at WWDC, and, I Have Thoughts

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Re: Apple Notes Will Gain Markdown Export at WWDC, and, I Have Thoughts

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Post by msgodel »

jhayward wrote: post #159
msgodel wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take my notes in INI format with a lose schema, as I accumulate data I tend to move towards something more concrete and write tools for it. I think this is the absolute best compromise between some kind of formal personal ERP-like (PRP?) system and something super loose like Markdown or org mode. Of course doing this on an iPhone is an absolute nightmare because everything has to be blessed by Apple and you can't j…

Did you ever test drive the Drafts app? It is remarkably easy to build customized workflows, both editing and document processing, and is built to be glue between different document/message apps.

It's a little late for that now since I don't own a smartphone anymore but it looks like there isn't a Linux version so the usefulness to me would have been limited anyway.

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Post by jve »

neilv wrote: post #151
dotdi wrote: post #41

When Gruber mentions that he never uses Markdown outside of his blog, and hinting at the fact that it was not intended for text editors (and other apps), there's one important point I want to make. Yes, Markdown has disadvantages, and a few rough edges for uses as the format for editors et al, but there are two very big advantages and/or sideffects of it's widespread use: (1) it's cleartext and therefore very good as…

Agreed. For me, the popularity of Markdown on (pre-Microsoft) GitHub and GitLab was all I needed, to declare that the company wiki, code-embedded API docs, and anything else appropriate should just use Markdown. Markdown is good enough for most of the documentation that software engineers do (other than diagrams), they already have to know it, and I don't want yet-another-markup-language to be a barrier to capturing…

> other than diagrams

Works fine with some help https://mermaid.live/ https://github.blog/developer-skills/github/include-diagrams...

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Post by ab5tract »

cheema33 wrote: post #164
absurdo wrote: post #71

I’ve trained our support staff on basic markdown syntax and while we do use it predominantly for spitting out documentation and guides and whatnot, its usefulness far exceeds the original intent. And that’s okay.

Funny. I am in the process of providing basic training on Markdown to our support staff. I think more than 80% of what we now write is in Markdown format. It is easy to read/write for humans. And AI.

Yeah, I understand that it might get confusing to use multiple implementations, or to transition between the two, but I seriously doubt these claims that “regular people” (as in, people who are expected to know how to use Word) are struggling with the syntax itself.

The article pretends that Markdown got popular because “it was there”. 15 years ago people were adopting it _because_ it is dead simple, unobtrusive, and visually evocative.

The ones who made it popular, in other words, did so quite intentionally.

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Post by Spooky23 »

EasyMark wrote: post #189
darkteflon wrote: post #153

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Former lawyer here. That most commercial contract work is done in Word is a source of major frustration and wasted time for many lawyers. Others are simply unaware that there are any authoring/editing paradigms that allow one to separate the drudgery of getting document formatting just-so, from the actual value-additive work. Unfortunately there’s no realistic solution to the lock-in, so wrestling with broken paragra…

I never have those issues, but I'm the only one editing my stuff. I use styles religiously when I use Word for professional documents. It takes a little more time and effort but pays out over the long haul.

That’s why. If you use styles and embrace sanity in general, it’s fine. But word is like Perl, there’s more than one way to do it.

Paste additions to the middle of a numbered list from legacy documents that break the number sequence and use custom fonts altar create weird problems? Sure.

Allow sociopaths to format text using a series of invisible text boxes? Sure.

Decide to randomly lose the names of editors and contributors? Sure.

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Post by alisadev »

mcdow wrote: post #29

Kinda stoked for this. Been working on a notes app and apple notes is my current daily driver. Apple notes stores the notes in a proprietary and opaque format atm. I’ve been scheming ways to break the notes out without luck. Now I can just wait for this feature to come out.

Maybe you could try these:

Export notes by folder: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/3aed9f1608ce4efeb31a276ad02...

Export all notes: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/1b305195692e42c19d258989475...

Notes to html: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/1a61fe549b7c41d7b2e3511ee12...

Re: Apple Notes Will Gain Markdown Export at WWDC, and, I Have Thoughts

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Post by alisadev »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #58

I’d love to see Markdown added to Apple Messages. I’m constantly sending URLs to people, like https://somesite.com/login . The point of these links is usually that people read them and understand them. But the automatic behavior is to replace the text with OpenGraph links, big obnoxious bubbles of graphics, which distort or destroy the meaning that I’m trying to convey. Given the opportunity, I would send most links…

I just do this:

and it sends it as a regular link without the bubble

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

Almondsetat wrote: post #15
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #9

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As its author, he’s right though. There really shouldn’t be a standard considered Standard Markdown. It muddies the fact that it wasn’t published by its author. Maybe Common Markdown would have been a better name between a few large orgs.

By this logic, since Ritchie died in 2011, you cannot have a "Standard C" because it's not from the author

We don’t! We have ANSI and ISO C.

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

chrismorgan wrote: post #187
SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #122

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Reddit's Markdown flavor is a bit weird though. It got closer to CommonMark with New Reddit, but the rest of the UI got worse, and people using Old Reddit don't get the formatting the new version supports, so things like code blocks are often broken.

Original Markdown didn’t have fenced code blocks either.

Yes, Old Reddit Markdown is much closer to original Markdown than to CommonMark. New Reddit Markdown is closer to CommonMark.

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Post by jaffa2 »

JSR_FDED wrote: post #186

Why is there no way in Notes to insert the current date easily? So often I need to go back to a note, and add some time stamped update at the end. Am I the only one?

No. Notes fails on many basic things, this is just one example.
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