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xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Post by Krasnol »

hintymad wrote: post #192
alterom wrote: post #178

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I really don't get the sentiment of everything Russia. Russia has the GDP of a province of China. Russia does not have a thriving manufacturing sector. Russia has increasingly less influence or power over the world. Why would powerful people in the US succumb to to Russia's influence? That just does not make sense. If anything, maybe the Lenin-loving Stalin-admiring Marxists would love Russia, like half of the univer…

It's not "Russia's influence", It's the influence of a few but very rich Russian individuals.

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Post by alterom »

FredPret wrote: post #187
alterom wrote: post #159

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>Not the most polite way to discuss a genocide, or at the very least an absolutely dire situation. It's as polite way as using the word genocide to describe the experience of white people in South Africa today merits. I can only reiterate the parent's recommendation to you.

Here's Genocide Watch's take: https://www.genocidewatch.com/tenstages Stages currently active in SA: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. Some people claim that the high murder rate among white SA'ns means they're also in stage 8/9, but actually the murder rate among black SA'ns is even higher. There's no genocide, but there's a whole lot of red flags and generally terrible things. Just because Trump believes something does not make it wr…

>There's no genocide

Thank you. This is all that needs to be said on this subject.

The word genocide does not mean "a lot of red flags and generally terrible things", nor was it made to describe that.

>Don't respond to something like this with a flippant statement about clutching your pearls.

Don't clutch pearls then.

As long as you keep abusing the word "genocide" to apply it to the plight of white people in South Africa, you'll get the response you think is flippant, and I consider to be insufficiently stern given the harm and disrespect of such usage.

Saying this as a Jew whose family members were killed by the Nazis during WW2, by the way.

They were KIA as soldiers, so I'm hesitant to label them as victims of genocide, even though they were certainly the target of it — out of respect both to them, and those who didn't get a chance to die fighting.

You don't get to call a demand for respect flippant.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Post by CaramelRaisins »

alterom wrote: post #144
kklisura wrote: post #116

> Telegram is the most popular messaging app in Iran and Uzbekistan [1] > Telegram’s largest market is India, which accounts for more than 20% of its userbase. Telegram also has a large amount of users in countries with heavy censorship and surveillance, such as Iran, Russia, and Uzbekistan. [1] > Percentage of users via region: Asia 38%, Europe 27%, Latin America 21%, MEMA 8% [1] It sure is valuable data - if you ar…

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How many times are you going to repost this?

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Post by spacebanana7 »

eqvinox wrote: post #191
hiddencost wrote: post #177

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Like Google with Apple?

Google pays Apple because Google has paying customers for that in their advertisers. For xAI to pay Telegram... where does xAI get value back out of that? I guess we'll be seeing AI with ads soon?

That’s the industry consensus. Sam Altman talked about something similar on a Stratechery podcast.

It not exactly unrealistic to imagine that people will ask LLMs about flights, hotels, restaurants or even insurance.

All that needs to happen is for LLMs to add a “buy now” button, and for the provider to take a 15% commission (still a lower take rate than Expedia FWIW).

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Post by arizen »

game_the0ry wrote: post #103

Call me stupid, but I fundamentally do not grasp why xAI would pay Telegram for access to its users. $300M seems like a crazy amount of money to put into a chat app. I am genuinely curious about the business strategy behind the move bc that would be a market worth exploring - having something that the AI industry would pay for bc they are willing to spend a lot right now.

Chat app with 1B+ users

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Post by overfeed »

ryandrake wrote: post #155
jsheard wrote: post #15

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It's the next logical step after companies shoving AI into every corner of their own products regardless of whether their users want it - now they're paying other companies to shove AI things into their products regardless of whether their users want it. Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations so they have to put their thumb on the scale by shoving it everyones face and then pre…

It's absolutely wild and scary watching how much money is being spent on pushing AI down the unwilling public's throats. Nobody wants this. Yet we're hiring expensive AI researchers and developers, buying datacenters full of GPUs, and now paying "partner" companies, to deliver this thing that nobody is asking for. What in the world is going on here? What am I not understanding?

FOMO. Everyone is trying to landgrab as much territory as possible with the hope of piles and piles of money in the future.

What looks like irrational exuberance to sceptics is a perfectly reasonable attempt to not miss out on the next "iPhone moment" by the believers.

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Post by matthewdgreen »

hintymad wrote: post #192
alterom wrote: post #178

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I really don't get the sentiment of everything Russia. Russia has the GDP of a province of China. Russia does not have a thriving manufacturing sector. Russia has increasingly less influence or power over the world. Why would powerful people in the US succumb to to Russia's influence? That just does not make sense. If anything, maybe the Lenin-loving Stalin-admiring Marxists would love Russia, like half of the univer…

The "why" is definitely an important question, but it's certainly pretty obvious that views of Russia are relatively favorable among some on the right [1].

[1] https://www.vanderbilt.edu/unity/2023/04/07/first-ever-vande...

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Post by alterom »

hintymad wrote: post #192
alterom wrote: post #178

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I really don't get the sentiment of everything Russia. Russia has the GDP of a province of China. Russia does not have a thriving manufacturing sector. Russia has increasingly less influence or power over the world. Why would powerful people in the US succumb to to Russia's influence? That just does not make sense. If anything, maybe the Lenin-loving Stalin-admiring Marxists would love Russia, like half of the univer…

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