And deleting the Telegram app. Will save me time anyway closing spam messages.
xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app
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#182This just made a whole ton of people I know on telegram (furries who make the internets go) immediately accelerate their movement off the platform. I found out about this news because of some backup signal rooms started sending notifications. They need to get ahead of the privacy implications and quickly. Furries are basically the roma of the internet at this point - what they value hasn't changed (anonymity, moderat…
Confirming. Discussed this in many chats today.
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#183That might be finally a reason for my friends to leave that app.
I spent half an hour dealing with a group I’m in getting off the platform today. Frustratingly, the majority wanted iMessage.
I’d prefer Signal but the story for backups on iOS is still a mess, and nobody wants to deal with it.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
xAI has essentially zero market outside of twitter, and with recent system prompt shenanigans from Elon, I cannot imagine anyone signing up to pay for API hits when there's a non-zero chance your application will suddenly start complaining about white genocide. They're painted themselves into a corner with the product and Elon's increasingly erratic behavior, they now have to pay companies to use their service.
> xAI has essentially zero market outside of twitter I suspect some MAGA use it.
Are they paying for API hits and developing application stacks around the service? It's clear who uses it, it's a lot less clear who might be willing to pay for it.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
By what metric(s)? Not being disingenuous, purely curious.
By number of fully EV sold each quarter. Take out hybrids from the metric because Tesla does not make hybrids
Valid. And I do think they'll continue to own the lion's share of total sales for a while. But is there any concern over their being down YOY for Q1 while other manufacturers are largely growing? Or is the expectation that it's a temporary blip and they'll continue growing in the upcoming quarters from previous YOY numbers?
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flawed logic. Google pays Mozilla for a spot in Firefox.
Google pays Mozilla a fraction of the money Goggle makes from ad clicks driven by Firefox, a revenue sharing agreement. Where's xAI's 80:20 split here? Where's the default AI interface in Telegram that users would fill with some other AI service if Telegram wasn't getting paid for the distribution? Where's the user expectation of AI in the product in the first place. This is nothing like the Google Mozilla (or Googlg…
*sigh*
Let's see if this helps you grasp it ...
"Feels oh so telling that Google has to pay Mozilla and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?"
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you can relax your grip on your pearls. Not the most polite way to discuss a genocide, or at the very least an absolutely dire situation.
>Not the most polite way to discuss a genocide, or at the very least an absolutely dire situation. It's as polite way as using the word genocide to describe the experience of white people in South Africa today merits. I can only reiterate the parent's recommendation to you.
Here's Genocide Watch's take: https://www.genocidewatch.com/tenstages
Stages currently active in SA: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. Some people claim that the high murder rate among white SA'ns means they're also in stage 8/9, but actually the murder rate among black SA'ns is even higher.
There's no genocide, but there's a whole lot of red flags and generally terrible things. Just because Trump believes something does not make it wrong.
From elsewhere on that site: "Dr. Gregory Stanton, Founding President of Genocide Watch, warned that early warnings of genocide are still deep in South African society, though genocide has not begun."
There are countless examples of early warnings. Here are a couple:
- Former president of SA sings "bring my machine gun" song at ruling party conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFIobjP3xAI
- Same guy singing "kill the Boer": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNc7SLUE1g
Many similar statements have been made by other politicians, among them Julius Malema, who collectively represent a large part of SA's population, over the course of many years.
Don't respond to something like this with a flippant statement about clutching your pearls.
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#188So that means Telegram users will use XAI for free, which means it will cost xAI potentially multiple times of $300M a year to serve the Telegram users?
"if it's free, then you are the product" applies here.
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#189Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app
#190If this is something their users actually wanted, they'd be paying xAI, not the other way around.
Maybe xAI has some interesting way to make money in other places, like Google paying Mozilla for making Google search the default choice.