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Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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kwanbix wrote: post #65
greatgib wrote: post #34

It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

I don't get the difference. Today after 72 hours (3 days) my phone asks me for my password and won't accept biometrics. Also, this is a problem for all the people that use them as alarm clocks. I use Alarm Clock Xtreme for example.

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Post by cameroncairns »

SXX wrote: post #193
saagarjha wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, yeah that seems wrong. I don't get reboots on devices I use frequently; I think it is only supposed to kick in when the device is not in use for a long time (it is meant to stop police who have a locked device they will try to brute force into).

Are you on latest iOS? Are you stilllocking / unlocking the phone once in 3 days at least? 7 days timeout on was introduced in iOS 18, but then decreased to 3 days. I dont use this device physically - it's just a phone that always connected to power and sit on top of mac mini for debugging and running some ios exclusive apps. And I honestly dont do anything remotely interested to the police to worry about it. Yet it…

My physical ios device test harness has no pin numbers/touch id activated for any of the connected phones. I noticed early on in testing that it would require physical access to reinput the pin code even when the device was already unlocked when I would restart an XCUI test.

If you're able to have fully unlocked devices at your test setup I'd suggest giving that a shot to see if it fixes your issue around device restart.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Post by scarface_74 »

fguerraz wrote: post #54

How about instead of patching up our societies with technology we vote for the right people / laws for once?

You don’t vote for the police or the three letter agencies and elected officials have little power over people with guns. Yes I know both on the the state level the police are suppose to be under the command of the civil government. But no elected official wants to get on the wrong side of the police unions.

Besides most people support the police no matter what. Police know not to abuse their powers against Whites.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/white-protesters-form-human-...

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Post by scarface_74 »

recursive wrote: post #76
WD-42 wrote: post #24

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Just be glad it’s not windows, which does it every 3 hours.

Topical joke 25 years ago

Says someone who has never had to deal with corporate installed malware - ie MDM software.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Post by prmoustache »

MattSayar wrote: post #180
yellowapple wrote: post #171

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Probably a good time as any to replace it with something purpose-built anyway. A Raspberry Pi with a directional microphone and a custom app feeding said microphone data to a service like AudD or ACRCloud could readily do the trick without any of Android's extra baggage - though I do wonder how effective those services would be at detecting songs amid a bunch of background noise like Bop Spotter does via Shazam.

I think half the value of the phone here is the built-in battery

You can power a raspberry pi with that battery though.

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Post by prmoustache »

Krasnol wrote: post #145
criddell wrote: post #95

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If that’s something you are worried about, don’t choose that option.

Is there a person on this planet where an unexpected hospital visit could not happen?

I think a wipe is not necessarily that much of an issue.

Some people lose or get their phone broken and start from a blank one on a regular basis.

In my case the only things that matter to me are synchronised through syncthing and radicale (a carddav/caldav server).

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Post by 14 »

scarface_74 wrote: post #199
greatgib wrote: post #34

It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

There is nothing any technology company can do to protect against rubber hose decryption.

There is always something that can be done. Like if phone is not actually powered on for x time set by the user it automatically factory resets all data. Or if phone is out of cell service for x time like as in a faraday bag in evidence then it resets itself. Or make it so that after a reboot it can only be opened if on a certain wifi hotspot or geolocation. Ultimately I am not a security expert or know if any of those ideas would actually work but it seems like you could add a few steps making it harder. Maybe it can be locked out and you can set a specific apple store which would require your ID before they can send a release code allowing it to be unlocked. All of that is probably way to complicated to be worth it for a typical user but I do think there can be a way if it was truly critical.

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Post by chgs »

oarsinsync wrote: post #124
greatgib wrote: post #34

It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

> in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in jail until he would comply with the judge order to unlock his device. This sounds a lot like the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 in the United Kingdom, where several people have been prosec…

USA

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/man-in-jail-2-ye...

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