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Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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We can't control which words people are super-reactive to in titles; we can only empirically observe what they are and try to dampen the effect, with the hope of making a thoughtful discussion at least a little more likely.

I this case you have completely changed the meaning of the title though. It sounds Like Meta did this of their own initiative which is a very different message.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

You’re not arrested for posting this, so that is a pretty big difference to Russia (and other authoritarian nations like China and Turkey), no? https://rsf.org/en/country/russia

> and other authoritarian nations like China and Turkey

And Israel, where a history teacher was arrested for making a post on Facebook:

https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/22/meir_baruchin

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"Meta has complied with 94% of takedown requests issued by Israel...Meta removed over 90,000 posts to comply with TDRs submitted by the Israeli government in an average of 30 seconds...All of the Israeli government’s TDRs post-October 7th contain the exact same complaint text, according to the leaked information, regardless of the substance of the underlying content being challenged. Sources said that not a single Israeli TDR describes the exact nature of the content being reported"

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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They were asking about it happening to citizens. From your article: > Mr Garcia, a Salvadoran

He's married to a citizen which gives him an avenue towards legal residency and full citizenship. It doesn't matter anyways because the government admitted he was deported due to a administrative error and because they actively undermined and sidestepped the courts authority on several occasions, there is effectively nothing stopping them from doing it to full blown citizens. Honestly, it sounds like it's just a matt…

I agree it's bad, and yes, the government admitted they shouldn't have done it. But regardless, the question was about if it has happened to a citizen, not a person who maybe could be a citizen one day but is not, and you responded with them "doing just that" when they did not, in fact, "do just that".

I'm not sure why there's a need to mislead when what's actually happening is bad enough.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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> knowing they would suppress any criticism of Russia‘s war in Ukraine? This is a leap in logic. You have no idea that they would know they would do this.

Ahh, that‘s why university presidents were fired because they allowed students to protest against Israel‘s war crimes in Palestine? But no Meta employee is fired for suppressing criticism of war crimes?

For all the illegal or immoral things Meta employees do and do not get fired for, this is very low on the list.

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post #202

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You’re not arrested for posting this, so that is a pretty big difference to Russia (and other authoritarian nations like China and Turkey), no? https://rsf.org/en/country/russia

> and other authoritarian nations like China and Turkey And Israel, where a history teacher was arrested for making a post on Facebook: https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/22/meir_baruchin

This Israeli as well, had everything taken from her for 4 IG posts:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/03/magazine/israel-free-spee...

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Was apartheid South Africa not an ethnostate then? Was the US south during slavery not an ethnostate? I almost wonder if your comment itself is Israeli propaganda.

Both comments that you posted to this thread so far have broken the site guidelines. Can you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stop doing that?

You're welcome to make your substantive points thoughtfully, but it's not ok to attack others (for example).

This is really important, because the impact of doing this evokes worse from others in a fruit-of-the-poisoned-tree sort of way. It's not a surprise that your comment here formed the root of such a terrible subthread with so many comments breaking the site guidelines at least as badly.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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America's arrested rather a large number of people in recent weeks—university students, mostly—for expressing viewpoints on the I/P conflict. The current Administration is claiming, and no one's yet stopped them, that First Amendment rights don't apply to non-citizens such as international students. - "You’re not arrested for posting this" For what it's worth, it's widely reported that ICE is trawling social media to…

I've seen a few news articles on arrests and the headlines are attention grabbing "Ivy League Student arrested for protesting" and it's worrisome to see. However then buried in the article is something like they overstayed their visa, etc. Take a sibling comment's link to an article with a "second student arrested" in the title. As in that seems like there isn't a "large number". This is nothing like the reports of a…

Rumeysa Ozturk did not overstay her visa nor advocate violence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_R%C3%BCmeysa_%C3%...

Nor did Rasha Alawieh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Rasha_Alawieh

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

Is Meta really considered “mainstream media”? I always took that phrase to refer to NBC, CBS, NY Post, etc - the big legacy news organizations (print and TV).

It's mainstream, it's media, people read their news on it, so yes. But I'd rather trust NPR, BBC, the Guardian or some other legacy news outlet, because these unscrupulous tech bros will skew the narrarive by silencing some sources while brainwashing people with whatever suits them best.
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