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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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brainlet wrote: post #41
diggan wrote: post #23

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> but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms. And the other half? They seem to welcome this as well, but with crossed arms. Where are the protests? Seems most people end up writing upset messages on Twitter/Bluesky, but also seems there are no grassroots movements to actually protest the borderline coup that is happening?

I've been monitoring online discussions with some interest and the complete lack of self reflection in left-leaning US population is interesting. People who were writing very nasty things about Russians too scared to destroy their lives by protesting against a brutal dictatorship not that long ago now sit on their asses and do nothing, because "what can we do?". Maybe at least some of them now understand what it's li…

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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by 9283409232 »

Dalewyn wrote: post #141
diggan wrote: post #120

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> Protest doesn't do anything. Most rights that workers have today have been earned through protesting (and sometimes the bloody consequence of protesting while the state is resisting wanted changes). Protests only "doesn't do anything" when you don't do it enough or give up. Maybe I'm too European to understand, but the "pacifist" approach of the US working class seems to not be working out great.

It seems like you're missing something pretty basic here, so here it goes: Government workers going on strike means they're doing what we want them to do, which is nothing. As a Trump voter, I want these federal government workers to stop working so the astronomical waste of our time/money and disturbing of peace stops. The best work the US government does is when it's doing nothing, because it's hardly working prope…

I hope you still feel like you're winning when more wars start.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by oefrha »

marcosdumay wrote: post #183
oefrha wrote: post #97

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That’s wishful thinking… One can’t simply stop using USD for trade on a whim. Decoupling will take at least a decade if not longer.

Nah, stop using the US$ for trade is as simply as just stop doing it. There's no lack of infrastructure, and plenty of commerce doesn't use it already. What is hard is desinvesting from the US treasure. You have to sell those somewhere, and if everybody tries, their value will quickly go to 0. But if the US is successful in making their trade-balance positive, this will solve itself without a lot of hardship, it's ju…

> as simply as just stop doing it

If you don't mind the tsunami that ensues, sure.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by [deleted] »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #60
Tyrubias wrote: post #3

It’s terrifying that data US taxpayers paid for, collected and analyzed in the name of public health, can be removed on a whim. While there are a lot of efforts to archive said data, it would still make it unavailable to Americans who are not tech savvy. Unfortunately, that seems to be the idea, I think.

Isn't this data already inaccessible to those who are not tech savvy? My grandma isn’t visiting any of the data download sites provided by the federal government. She doesn’t even know why she would, or even that such data is available. And if I provide it to her, she hasn’t the skills to do anything with it.

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Post by somename9 »

hypeatei wrote: post #198
somename9 wrote: post #196

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Musk is not the richest man in the world. Those lists exclude royalty and other individuals who do not want the extra publicity. The Rothschilds are far richer.

> Those lists exclude royalty and other individuals who do not want the extra publicity What individual(s)? You just mentioned a family and not an individual. Forbes lists Elon's net worth at $419 billion.

David de Rothschild. The family has lent money to governments and royalty for centuries. You’re not going to find his accurate net worth on Forbes.

Also, any king or dictator effectively owns their nation’s entire treasury, including all real estate. Maduro, for example, is wealthier than Musk.

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Post by nullocator »

Dalewyn wrote: post #164
Spooky23 wrote: post #150

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The good news is that as a Trump voter who is a MAGA believer, you’ve established that you’re ignorant and open to emotional manipulation. You’re the political equivalent of the old lady who talks to the scammers. So when your glorious day comes, and your State asserts their rights and levies your bank account to pay for your parents medical bills as your filial responsibility, (or whatever your personal tragedy ends…

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I don't think there is any evidence to backup those claims (assuming you're talking about "$50 million sent to Gaza for condoms").

I don't believe you are arguing in good faith otherwise I'd think you'd also be upset about the millions of tax dollars spent so that one man can golf? Which there are actual receipts for [1].

[1] https://www.npr.org/2019/02/05/691684859/government-watchdog...

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Post by 0xcde4c3db »

CalRobert wrote: post #125
RIMR wrote: post #113

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People aren't downvoting because they disagree about what's happening. They are downvoting because they agree with fascism, but don't like it when people say the truth out loud. It's a fundamental reality of fascism that those who support it will also deflect all valid criticism of their movement. A majority of U.S. voters chose this. After all that was already known about this admin, they aren't backing down, he's d…

Nitpick - fewer than fifty percent of votes went to trump

I was sure this was wrong, but it's true: according to official state counts, Donald Trump won 49.80% of the popular vote to Kamala Harris's 48.32%. The top 5 was rounded out by Jill Stein (0.56%), Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (0.49%), and Chase Oliver (0.42%) [1].

[1] https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024pres...

(yes, I'm aware of the irony of linking to federal agency data in this thread)

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Post by abenga »

somename9 wrote: post #206
hypeatei wrote: post #198

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> Those lists exclude royalty and other individuals who do not want the extra publicity What individual(s)? You just mentioned a family and not an individual. Forbes lists Elon's net worth at $419 billion.

David de Rothschild. The family has lent money to governments and royalty for centuries. You’re not going to find his accurate net worth on Forbes. Also, any king or dictator effectively owns their nation’s entire treasury, including all real estate. Maduro, for example, is wealthier than Musk.

Elon seems to have bought control over the US treasury, so he's in those leagues.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by Applejinx »

0xcde4c3db wrote: post #208
CalRobert wrote: post #125

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Nitpick - fewer than fifty percent of votes went to trump

I was sure this was wrong, but it's true: according to official state counts, Donald Trump won 49.80% of the popular vote to Kamala Harris's 48.32%. The top 5 was rounded out by Jill Stein (0.56%), Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (0.49%), and Chase Oliver (0.42%) [1]. [1] https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024pres... (yes, I'm aware of the irony of linking to federal agency data in this thread)

archive it, quick! Can't have that data around contradicting the landslide and all :)
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