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Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by Symbiote »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #191
m463 wrote: post #70

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I think the truck is like dating an exciting but shallow person who doesn't care about you. The truck is extremely fast, with excellent steering, suspension and lots of other groundbreaking technology. But it is basically user-hostile. No dashboard, no stalks for turn signals or gear selection, and everything is on the central touchscreen. And that is super cluttered and impossible to do important things without look…

Oooooh, is this why I see so many Teslas not using their turn signals? How did that even get regulatory approval (though I guess not in the EU)?

Tesla has approval for no turn signal stalks on their other model in the EU.

I don't know why. It's the reason they don't indicate when leaving a roundabout.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by IntelMiner »

kaliqt wrote: post #179
PoignardAzur wrote: post #111

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

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Fearmongering? Ralph Nader was writing about how unsafe motor vehicles were in 1965

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by fxtentacle »

The headline is pretty misleading.

From the article: "Tesla sold almost 17,000 Cybertrucks in the third quarter"

and I believe the total sales volume for last quarter was 400k EVs in the US and about 3.5mio worldwide.

That means Cybertruck sales were like 2-3% of total sales in the US and <0.5% worldwide.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by IntelMiner »

qwerpy wrote: post #110
forgetfreeman wrote: post #56

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I actually saw one in person for the first time a couple days ago. I had a great laugh at the owner's expense. He could better serve his desperate need for attention at a fraction of the price by hosting a block party or driving a 70s F150 or similar (aka an actual truck). Unlike many folks who think these things are trash I'm delighted they're on the market. Characterless voids trying to trowel over their emptiness…

CT driver here. I didn't even get one for the attention. I thought it was cool-looking, useful, and could make for a good family car. I was right! I'm an introvert so the constant attention (almost all positive, even in the Seattle area, surprisingly) was definitely an adjustment for me. Trust me, I'd be perfectly fine without the constant attention but people just keep giving it! Now I actually kind of enjoy it. My…

As a fellow Seattleite, I'm excited to see it rust to hell now that it's raining more and more

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by moralestapia »

Symbiote wrote: post #199
PoignardAzur wrote: post #111

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

They are not legal in the EU, but a loophole is being exploited to import them. I'd appreciate EU citizens writing to their MEPs about this. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/08/tesla-cyb...

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Post by IntelMiner »

mfkp wrote: post #158
mattkenefick wrote: post #137

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> we need more mainstream vehicles challenging the boring design "norms" I'd argue that we need to start treating cars like the utilitarian objects they are and stop associating our personalities with them.

We need to start treating PCs like the utilitarian objects they are and bring back beige cases.

Fractal Design is always a nice option for that

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by IntelMiner »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #86
thebruce87m wrote: post #76

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> She had about two or three tires slashed or had the air nozzle cut off and sentry mode didn't catch anything except the back of the persons head. Who is doing this? Anti-Musk people? Anti-EV people? I’m not from the US so I’m not familiar with the politics.

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Embraced by whom, exactly?

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by pvaldes »

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #160
diebeforei485 wrote: post #145

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Most of the things you mention are issues with individual units (lemons).

The problem with Teslas almost universally is with lemons. Which is to say if you get lucky your experience will be great. The problem is that there are a fuck ton of lemons and cars that have no problems turn into lemons right around the time that the first few problems show up (which means more lemons as they age). That's essentially just a QA and reliability design failure which is indicative of broader issues wit…

Some markets could have more lemons that other. An insurance adjuster tell me that most of his interventions with towed Teslas were for cars refusing to start by electric issues and that a lot of the Teslas seen by him were second hand vehicles imported from other countries. The guy disliked the brand a lot. I assume that those weren't the best models if the first owner get rid of them.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by sabbaticaldev »

Sabinus wrote: post #155
Qwertious wrote: post #119

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People keep assuming China is only successful because they're dumping, and miss the elephant in the room: China went all-in on EVs over a decade ago, while we were fucking about with hybrids and maybe-just-stick-with-ICE. They have world-class batteries and insatiable domestic demand and it's been that way since before Tesla, what if China is undercutting us because their cars are just better ? In that case our tarri…

>They have world-class batteries and insatiable domestic demand Excellent, then they won't have an issue with losing their export markets to tariffs, because they can just sell their EVs to the "insatiable demand" of the local consumers. >what if China is undercutting us because their cars are just better Price/performance they ARE better, China can produce cheaper because of their years of (government aided) investm…

> excellent, then they won't have an issue with losing their export markets to tariffs, because they can just sell their EVs to the "insatiable demand" of the local consumers.

that’s what happened but the point in discussion here is why Tesla does not have competition in the US and the answer is simple

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by golol »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #111

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

It's basically the same size as an F-150. It has a crumple zone although it probabl only activates for hard car collisions. I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150. Which is not good at all, but it is still a bit pretentious to paint it as a horribly dangerous car when there is no evidence that it is worse than one of the most common cars in the US.
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