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Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person.

The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

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It only feels like a car because of the amazing steer by wire. It’s actually a truck though.

It's not a truck though. It's a unibody car with a bed and big wheels. Trucks are body on frame and can do real work without the back falling off.

Unibody car is misleading because the materials are very different. I don’t think it is comparable to either a body on frame construction or the type of unibody a typical sedan or crossover has.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

#113

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

In that case, I can't imagine how you feel about delivery trucks.

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So basically the sub-$30k Chevy Bolt EV and EUV. US sales broke 60,000 units in 2023.

The Bolt EUV is the perfect EV, and it’s a travesty that they stopped selling it. Hopefully the talk of them bringing it back is true.

WTF is going on with the Chevy EVs?

They dropped the Volt which you can only pry out of owners cold, dead hands. They dropped the Bolt EUV which seems to be similarly adored.

What dumbass metric is causing these stupid decisions?

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

#115

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

In that case, I can't imagine how you feel about delivery trucks.

Cab-over trucks usually have pretty good visibility out the front. Plus, they are useful for delivery of goods that help society.

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> There is no other way to spin a $100K car being the #3 overall EV vehicle of any type other than a success, especially given that they have the US government block competition

Only from China. Non-communist non-dumping, friendly states are welcome to compete.

50% of Telsas are made in China. China built Teslas are noticeably better built, too.

Welcome to reality.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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It's not a truck though. It's a unibody car with a bed and big wheels. Trucks are body on frame and can do real work without the back falling off.

Unibody car is misleading because the materials are very different. I don’t think it is comparable to either a body on frame construction or the type of unibody a typical sedan or crossover has.

similar things were said about the Honda Ridgeline and the Chevrolet Avalanche; they ended up having the same long-tern issues that they were predicted to have; torn mounting points and reduced repair-ability when the inevitable occurs.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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The reason theyre selling is likely due to a US small business tax loophole that allows you to write off things like range rovers and escalades as a business expense. coupled with US electric vehicle incentives state and federal, and its a pretty sweet deal on the most electric SUV per weight and length you can buy. Honestly I fully expect to see these things crisping in the sunlit parking lot of a predatory auto len…

How is buying a company vehicle a "tax loophole"?

The business spends pretax dollars to pay the car payments instead of post tax W2 income or dividends/other cash disbursements that are taxed and then you can depreciate the company car against future income.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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post #89

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> There is no other way to spin a $100K car being the #3 overall EV vehicle of any type other than a success, especially given that they have the US government block competition

Only from China. Non-communist non-dumping, friendly states are welcome to compete.

People keep assuming China is only successful because they're dumping, and miss the elephant in the room: China went all-in on EVs over a decade ago, while we were fucking about with hybrids and maybe-just-stick-with-ICE. They have world-class batteries and insatiable domestic demand and it's been that way since before Tesla, what if China is undercutting us because their cars are just better?

In that case our tarrifs are just protectionism, is what.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

#120

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

In that case, I can't imagine how you feel about delivery trucks.

That thing is all steel and sharp corners. Not at all the same as a delivery truck, adhering to basic pedestrian safety standards and also driven mostly by workers with special driving licenses. Also they are way slower than these steel battering rams.
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