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Thailand discovers nearly 15M tonnes of lithium

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Re: Thailand discovers nearly 15M tonnes of lithium

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Post by moffkalast »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #166
aiauthoritydev wrote: post #143

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I'm sure you have read that from multiple sources. But I'd LOVE to know you in person and bet real dollars. Let's bet $10,000 on any of the IPCC estimates from the past 25 years and see if those old predictions overstated the problem. I'm sure you've been TOLD that, but it isn't true. The writers of the IPCC reports are aware of the political danger of overshooting, and they intentionally understate the severity of t…

Whoever can invest the most into constant blatant propaganda is the one whose message sticks. And the fossil fuel lobby's been doing it since the 60s while being funded by a large share of all of our paychecks.

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Post by avgcorrection »

deepsun wrote: post #76
cbsmith wrote: post #67

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In the sense of "we'll bring Democracy to your country", yes. ;-)

Please do bring democracy to my country of birth, yes. And I mean it. Right now it pretty much is held occupied by brute force. 90% of population would welcome ANY change.

The democracy is of the sarcastic kind by the way.

Re: Thailand discovers nearly 15M tonnes of lithium

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Post by Ringz »

legulere wrote: post #148
ajuc wrote: post #91

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When you look at elements' abundance in Earth's crust lithium is about 50% more common than lead, but we mine 268 times more lead every year. We just weren't looking very hard to find lithium compared to lead till very recently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_elements_in_Earth...

Minerals can be common but infeasible for extraction. Aluminum is one of the most common elements but we extract it just from bauxite

Just like uranium.

Re: Thailand discovers nearly 15M tonnes of lithium

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Post by avgcorrection »

genman wrote: post #20
greggsy wrote: post #16

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Lese Majeste has nothing to do with this news. Every country has problems.

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The whataboutism would be to bring up the Thai Royal Family apropos of nothing on the topic of lithium, no? (I honestly can’t tell who are you are agreeing with.)

Re: Thailand discovers nearly 15M tonnes of lithium

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Post by avgcorrection »

genman wrote: post #180
bobthepanda wrote: post #32

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at the same time Thailand is no Congo. the reason stuff like this gets downvoted is that it's pretty counterproductive to list a country's sins every single time an article remotely relevant is posted, to have it devolve in to a flame war

Yes, indeed, it is not, but coincidentally today a person was imprisoned for 50 years for being a little critical about the king of Thailand. 50 years! A young man! It clearly foreshadows this otherwise very good news. Many people I know live considerable time of the year in Thailand and they are very supportive of the country but in my opinion this particular legislation clearly reminds that not everything is good t…

> Similarly we should not close our eyes in case of US when it is gravitation toward less freedom. But this news is not about US.

- New rare earth metal reserves found in Utah

- How will this affect the notorious police-on-black brutality issue?

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Post by SoftTalker »

3000000001 wrote: post #158
SoftTalker wrote: post #129

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Adaptation happens when it's forced to happen.

Yes, but there is always the second half of “adapt or die” to consider

Yes, that's how evolution works. Those with a survival advantage succeed. Mother Nature doesn't hand out consolation prizes.

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Post by avar »

hatthew wrote: post #192
avar wrote: post #146

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The rate at which the temperature is changing is probably at historic highs, but both the current temperature and atmospheric CO2 concentrations are close to historic lows. See [1], that xkcd is picking a really biased starting point by using the last ice age as a baseline. Ice ages themselves being extreme abnormalities from the general historic trend. 1. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Global-Temperature-and-C.…

That xkcd is not demonstrating the amount of warming, it is demonstrating the velocity of warming. Historic temperatures on a time scale of millions of years are completely irrelevant to the current discussion of climate change, unless you think we have a chance to evolve into dinosaurs in the next few centuries (/s).

The temperature and CO2 concentrations are also unusually low for the Cenozoic Era. That's the post-Dinosaur era (if we're not including avians): https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Dynamics-of-global-surfa...

The rise of mammals happened almost immediately after the extinction of dinosaurs, when the average surface temperature was around 10°C hotter than today.

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Post by astrange »

rayiner wrote: post #182
whimsicalism wrote: post #165

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Because comparative advantage means that we all get richer collectively? Like - the basic principle driving better living standards over the last 80 years?

Define “better living standards.” Obviously has been great for third world countries. But folks in the west don’t seem to happy about the situation. I don’t think the widespread availability of cheap Chinese crap offsets the downside of hollowing out the industrial base and non-college jobs.

That was caused by bad US monetary policy. You've confused cause and effect.

(Americans hate inflation so much they preferred the Volcker recession in the 70s, which is what caused the deindustrialization, which is what caused things to move to Asia.)

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Post by Legend2440 »

frabert wrote: post #139
brianwawok wrote: post #135

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Lithium is a pretty volatile chemical though. Does the 50% more common take into account the fact that some lithium blows up?

Is lithium normally mined in its elemental form? If not, its volatility as an ore might be wildly less than in its metallic form

Essentially no metals are mined in their pure elemental form - only the noble metals like gold or platinum.

Re: Thailand discovers nearly 15M tonnes of lithium

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Post by astrange »

NERD_ALERT wrote: post #150
m00x wrote: post #116

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Good context, but not a geopolitical crisis, it was an internal civil conflict.

The US/CIA has a long history of inciting coups, rigging elections, and funding far right terror organizations across Latin America for matters similar or lesser than this [1]. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss this as unprovoked internal conflict. Especially given that only a year after this event, another election was held in which Luis Arce won in a landslide [2]. Luis Arce was importantly the finance minister for…

> The US/CIA has a long history of inciting coups, rigging elections, and funding far right terror organizations across Latin America for matters similar or lesser than this [1].

More recently we've been supporting leftist elected candidates against right-wing coups.

We don't care Bolivia has lithium. We get lithium from Australia.

Third worldist leftists have many dumb ideas, but among them is the idea that wars are for resources or that we're exploiting third world countries by taking their resources. It's almost the opposite - they are poor because we aren't trading with them.

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