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Grindr Loses Almost Half Its Staff on 2-Day RTO Requirement

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Re: Grindr Loses Almost Half Its Staff on 2-Day RTO Requirement

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Post by isykt »

00deadbeef wrote: post #176
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I guess they just added a web client, which absolutely no one needs, that probably cost a pretty penny. I'd argue the opposite, they absolutely need a web client, as Grindr (and Scruff) are getting their lunch eaten by a new Seattle-based competitor that has no app store presence and fully embraces the freedoms that come with that, and is cheaper to boot.

What Seattle-based startup are you all cryptically referring to?

Sniffies. It’s far better than Grindr in almost every way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniffies

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Post by bobthepanda »

mrweasel wrote: post #149
TheCleric wrote: post #106

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I think of it like this: would the business exist without the software they wrote in house to facilitate the business? If the business ceases to exist without the software: it's a software company.

I do like that definition, but there's also the question of what kind of business would it be? There are companies that have to write their own software, because there isn't commercially available solution that will allow them to scale. Companies like energy trading companies, banks, hedge funds, ISPs and so on. They might buy some solutions, but build others. eBay also doesn't magically become an auction house, just…

I think that Grindr is pretty solidly a software company.

Unlike most other dating apps (Tinder/OKCupid/Match/Bumble/etc.) there is no actual “matching” mechanism. You are just displayed a grid ordered by distance of the X closest people to you, which requires basically a chatbox and an app that can interact with location services.

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Post by mbfg »

I was told my in-person office (nothing at all special) cost the company 15K per month several years before covid, and when i was working part time remote, i have to either go full time remote (thus freeing that cost for someone else) or full time in person. i went full time remote, of course. Gotta imagine real estate is one of the bigger costs for in person software companies.

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Post by wan23 »

00deadbeef wrote: post #176
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I guess they just added a web client, which absolutely no one needs, that probably cost a pretty penny. I'd argue the opposite, they absolutely need a web client, as Grindr (and Scruff) are getting their lunch eaten by a new Seattle-based competitor that has no app store presence and fully embraces the freedoms that come with that, and is cheaper to boot.

What Seattle-based startup are you all cryptically referring to?

Sniffies. Don't open it at work.

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #179
mrweasel wrote: post #150

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I understood it as the company has to write the software in-house. The steel mill bought the software, so not a software company by that definition.

The steel mill wrote the software, they've got a couple guys writing C# for an ASP.NET app that runs their custom CRM and pushes orders, CAD files around, keeping the workload consistent so that you don't end up with a bunch of parts in a row that all need the largest gantry crane at the same time, ensuring that patterns cut in-house are ready on time, making sure that the shop knows what color paint goes on each par…

> The steel mill wrote the software, they've got a couple guys writing C# for an ASP.NET app that runs their custom CRM and pushes orders, CAD files around, keeping the workload consistent so that you don't end up with a bunch of parts in a row that all need the largest gantry crane at the same time, ensuring that patterns cut in-house are ready on time, making sure that the shop knows what color paint goes on each part, and so on. And that's not even getting to the custom automation software that runs on their PLCs and so on.

Then yes, they're at least partially a software company. (I personally tend to think it's a spectrum, with this steel company at the bottom and ex. Collabera at the top.)

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Post by burkaman »

IKantRead wrote: post #101

> CEO says firm is smaller than ideal but positive for margins Sounds like "quiet cutting"[0] to me, only I'm guessing the CEO's target was slightly less people quitting. It's remarkable how quickly startups have become aggressively anti-worker. 0. https://www.wsj.com/articles/first-it-was-quiet-quitting-now...

No I think this was the goal. This wasn't just "start commuting to the office in your city", this was "pack up your life and move to Chicago, all software engineers have to work from that office now". It was obviously absurd and intended to force at least this many people out.

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Post by rikroots »

hgomersall wrote: post #173
jmspring wrote: post #160

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A good cat sitter is hard to find. The wife and I have told ours, if we move, she is moving with us.

Is this a serious reply? I mean, don't cats just ignore everyone? What do cat sitters do apart from spoon food from the packet into the bowl, replenish the water and occasionally tickle the cats tummy?

Sadly, finding a good cat sitter is a real-life thing. We are owned by a diabetic cat who also has severe abandonment issues and has been know to attack sitters without warning. We haven't been able to have a holiday since before Covid.

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Post by callalex »

vuln wrote: post #197
callalex wrote: post #183

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Just because Musk says something doesn’t make it true. In fact it usually means the opposite.

What about the ADL itself? Here’s their call to action against Facebook. Why wouldn’t they go after twitter… Oh wait they did barely one month after acquisition. https://www.adl.org/resources/letter/open-letter-companies-a... https://theweek.com/controversies/1018137/one-month-after-it... https://forward.com/news/556095/adl-twitter-advertising-boyc...

Sorry, I should have been less brief. I don’t deny that the ADL has been campaigning against xitter, I just hold extreme doubt that they are the main reason xitter lost half of its ad revenue. I think that is more likely caused by other factors.

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Post by llsf »

nathanaldensr wrote: post #103
datavirtue wrote: post #64

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Zombie from cheap debt. The typical IPO scam.

It's funny how so few people realize that the end of ZIRP means the end of tons of companies like this. Without nearly-free debt, many of these companies have no business model at all.

I think, hooking up is going to stay, ZIRP or no-ZIRP.

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Post by burkaman »

vajrabum wrote: post #16

From the article it seems the CWA union has been trying to organize the workforce just prior to this announcement and has filed a complaint with the nrlb, so maybe this is union busting? The article not only mentions RTO but also a relocation requirement.

Yes, they told all software engineers to move to Chicago within a few months, even ones that live somewhere like LA and used to or currently work from a Grindr office there. It is transparent union busting, and they hired the most prominent union busters in the country to advise them on this process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Littler_Mendelson.
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