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Post by memefrog »

ekidd wrote: post #118
tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

I powerlifed for years, with a truly excellent coach for much of that time. For what it was worth, she was Starting Strength certified and a successful international masters competitor. She fixed a subtle problem with my deadlift using nothing but the wrinkles on my T-shirt; my recovery improved dramatically. At 40, I was stronger than I was as a high school wrestler. I loved lifting. I remember casually picking up a…

Far more people are hurt by not doing enough exercise than are hurt by doing too much.

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Post by memefrog »

trabant00 wrote: post #152
ekidd wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I powerlifed for years, with a truly excellent coach for much of that time. For what it was worth, she was Starting Strength certified and a successful international masters competitor. She fixed a subtle problem with my deadlift using nothing but the wrinkles on my T-shirt; my recovery improved dramatically. At 40, I was stronger than I was as a high school wrestler. I loved lifting. I remember casually picking up a…

Injuries are not talked about enough on the internet. And they should be the number one topic for amateur fitness enthusiasts of any kind. Everybody is focusing on impressive performance results but: - you will never achieve anything resembling impressive as an amateur natty no matter what you do. PED use is so common now they're the standard for comparisons - your pay check does not depend on achieving certain resul…

I think the number one topic should be actually doing it at all. Too many people just talk about getting exercise, or endlessly watch videos about it, or endlessly read blogs and articles and guides, but never actually do it, or do very little.

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Post by giraffe_lady »

mcny wrote: post #185

I had a less traumatic experience at the beach. I lost my glasses to the waves. Working on a laptop for the few weeks while my new glasses that I ordered online arrived was painful. At least something good came off of it. I'm all for building more accessible websites now.

Good example of social model of disability too, which I find the most useful way to think about it. You have an impairment, but because of access to an accommodation it doesn't normally prevent you from doing the things you need and want to do eg is not disabling.

But in other circumstances, like not having financial access to vision correction, it would be. Whether a specific limitation is a disability or not isn't a feature of your body, but a function of your society's relationship to you.

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Post by laputan_machine »

98Windows wrote: post #195

I became disabled after a music festival last year. The music was too loud and something broke in my ear. Now every sound hurts me, my voice is far too painful, going for a walk outside is too painful. Basically I can't do anything but sit in a silent room and browse the internet. Pain hyperacusis sucks. I wish I'd been more careful with my hearing.

These things can happen suddenly and without warning. When I was 18 I was in a nightclub, my mate shouted a bit too loud into my ear (because the music was loud) and permanently damaged my hearing in my right ear, it hurts to hear certain frequencies in that ear now, and sounds like water stuck in there when it happens.

I'm sorry to hear you have it (or something worse) in both

Take care of your ears, folks.

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Post by bt4u »

throwaway4good wrote: post #132
ekidd wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I powerlifed for years, with a truly excellent coach for much of that time. For what it was worth, she was Starting Strength certified and a successful international masters competitor. She fixed a subtle problem with my deadlift using nothing but the wrinkles on my T-shirt; my recovery improved dramatically. At 40, I was stronger than I was as a high school wrestler. I loved lifting. I remember casually picking up a…

I used to do karate. There were all these character who had seemingly superhuman physical fitness yet they would die really early. I always wondered why was that? Now I believe that a lot of physical training isn't that healthy. And if you put your whole personal identity on your physical abilities then when your abilities start to decline, as they naturally do from age 40 and up, you may spiral out of control and li…

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Post by penjelly »

i had a similar realization when i shattered my humerus, one arm completely out of commission for a month then a year of recovery. The only things i could do were TV/video games with a controller, ive always been a gamer but struggled with the idea: is gaming net positive on peoples lives or society? Lots of people "waste" tons of time gaming when they could be improving their situations. Having no ability to work/cook/exercise i noticed that gaming is a MASSIVE boon to disabled people. Im not sure how well id have managed without to be honest.

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Post by safety1st »

Tenoke wrote: post #164
iamphilrae wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I 100% agree. You mention some pretty scary KG numbers there though (but we’ll done)! I just wanted to mention to readers that even squatting a ‘measly’ 50KG or deadlifting 30KG can immensely help with back pain and the physical challenges everyday life throws at you.

These numbers seem off? Everywhere I look online even the numbers for untrained men are higher than that. I just came back to the gym, am the weakest person there, slightly weaker than 'untrained' numbers on the internet and I can do more. 0. https://www.strengthlog.com/deadlift-strength-standards-kg/

That link lists the averages among the 21,000 users of StrengthLog. I'm sure the average normal human who doesn't use a weight training logging app is way lower.

For example the beginner on there is 76kg. I think it'd be a bad idea for a guy who's 40 years old, untrained and out of shape to rock up and deadlift 50kg, even just for one rep. He wouldn't know what to expect, he'd get the form wrong, he'd probably hurt his back. People who aren't trained should start with the bar, sometimes they're better off starting with even less than the bar and that is fine!

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Post by madeofpalk »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #192
throwaway4good wrote: post #99

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I think that is missing the point a bit; regardless of how healthy a lifestyle you live you still will end up suffering from some kind of disability. Perhaps of a cause completely outside your control (stroke, heart problem, accident). Not to say that strength training isn't good for you of course. But it may not actually prepare you for things to come (unlike having a healthy family life, an identity outside work an…

>I think that is missing the point a bit same right back at you. just because at some point you might (or I guess you and the author are arguing will) get injured doesn't mean strengthening yourself is invalid. in fact healthier and in better shape you are the less likely you are to suffer debilitating injury. tweaking my strong knee that is used to squatting heavy weights and otherwise supporting active lifting is w…

Strengthening yourself is beside the point. I don't think anyone is saying that that strength training is invalid. You're trying to debate a point that no one is disagreeing with.

Lifting weights isn't going to do much to prevent your hearing going bad, or eyes degrading and needing corrective lenses, or not being able to move otherwise you'll wake the newly born baby who's finally gotten to sleep.

This article is a rebuttal against the myth that "accessibility" is for "other people", that "disabled" and "abled" are two different camps, and accessibility tech is only something used by completely blind people in wheelchairs, which will never happen to me. We're all just temporarily abled. Even throughout the day we go through a range of ability with our physical body - even if it's just needing to respond to a phone while cooking and your hands are covered in raw chicken.

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Post by Tenoke »

safety1st wrote: post #208
Tenoke wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These numbers seem off? Everywhere I look online even the numbers for untrained men are higher than that. I just came back to the gym, am the weakest person there, slightly weaker than 'untrained' numbers on the internet and I can do more. 0. https://www.strengthlog.com/deadlift-strength-standards-kg/

That link lists the averages among the 21,000 users of StrengthLog. I'm sure the average normal human who doesn't use a weight training logging app is way lower. For example the beginner on there is 76kg. I think it'd be a bad idea for a guy who's 40 years old, untrained and out of shape to rock up and deadlift 50kg, even just for one rep. He wouldn't know what to expect, he'd get the form wrong, he'd probably hurt h…

I believe beginner here is not untrained. There were a few links with different categories (all above the 30kg deadlift, 50kg squat for the lowest one). I only shared the first one in my comment.

30kg DL is 5kg on each side of a 20kg bar which is less than I've lifted my very first time and I was pretty unfit and I'm sure the vast majority of untrained people can lift that. Hell, that's easier than bar-only bench press, which most people can also easily do on their first try.

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