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It also was to increase the number of people who got covid after being vaccinated, instead of before. Edit - to elaborate, I just mean that it made sense to try to keep infections down and give companies time to develop a vaccine. Not sure why this struck a nerve.
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> we knew early on we could produce an effective vaccine. How?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8052930/
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that is just total word salad. Please look up what habeas corpus means. It's right there in wikipedia or any other reference work of your choice. Informed consent is not a right. Those are enumerated also in reference works. Medicine in the united states is essentially the opposite of socialized. Good lord.
https://verdict.justia.com/2020/03/15/lock-us-down-suspend-h...
Department of Justice used the precedence of state government lockdowns to gain the power to detain suspects indefinately.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-eme...
You need to look up what it means.
> Whereas lockdowns in the Covid-19 case might have contributed to a lengthening of the crisis by delaying herd immunity The point of the lockdown was not to entirely stop the spread- that was obviously not happening. It was to slow the spread to avoid overwhelming hospitals. It allowed us to reduce the lethality of COVID-19 by having more resources per sick person.
My general opinion of it is that lock downs at the beginning were essential for slowing the spread of the disease and allow the hospitals to prepare for it, but there was a point where the virus was endemic anyway that all the masking and isolation protocols were doing more harm than good.
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I think the lockdown concept as implemented in 2020 was a great illustration of the problem of scale. This is not a popular opinion but I think the fundamental mistake of lockdowns, at least in North America, was starting from a top-down approach instead of bottom-up. People are going to act like selfish assholes. We ordered them not to. I think instead of threats, we should have aligned their selfish interests with…
How much easier could it be? It's my understanding that you can sue anyone at any time for almost anything in the US.
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My general opinion of it is that lock downs at the beginning were essential for slowing the spread of the disease and allow the hospitals to prepare for it, but there was a point where the virus was endemic anyway that all the masking and isolation protocols were doing more harm than good.
I will agree that isolation for long periods could have had some negative impacts, but masking never did and never will.
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>and I hesitate to even call them that here in the US, we didn't have literal lockdowns like China had where they welded doors shut on apartments Were there even places that gave you a citation for being out "uneccessarily"? Every single "lockdown" I'm familiar with in the US was voluntary. There was a period where "non-essential" businesses were forced or encouraged to not operate, but even that still isn't a lockdo…
Yes, the word lockdown means forced quarantine of the entire population by law (except "essential" workers). Were they really voluntary everywhere in the USA? For example, the UK is still processing a giant backlog of fines and imprisonments for people who violated lockdown rules, more than 28,000 so far. You were allowed to go for a walk alone or with members of your household once per day, and go to supermarkets, b…
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No, but an infectious disease is also limiting on people's freedoms, so it's equally not obvious that those rights override the rights of people to be protected from infectious diseases.
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My general opinion of it is that lock downs at the beginning were essential for slowing the spread of the disease and allow the hospitals to prepare for it, but there was a point where the virus was endemic anyway that all the masking and isolation protocols were doing more harm than good.
I will agree that isolation for long periods could have had some negative impacts, but masking never did and never will.