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Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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FYI, you can use oathtool on your PC for 2FA, you don't need custom apps for that.

That's not going to work with my bank, maybe GitHub? I googled and found this from HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35083499#35086708 I'll give it a try. It doesn't change that 2FA is a pain and I'll log into GitHub only if strictly necessary. Maybe reduced logins are part of their security plan.

2FA mule.

Makes all of this very simple.

Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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Most custom ROMs don't seem to use the AOSP dialer anyway. I've mostly seen forks with some nice features Google's dialer still lacks (call recording, for one). AOSP hasn't been a useful Android distribution for years. Luckily, you can make it useful through third party apps like the Simple apps: https://www.simplemobiletools.com/

I'm using Google Voice for my dialer... really hope they don't break this outright though. Have thought it would be nice to replace GV with a FLOSS option I can self-host, but every time I've looked into it, it feels like such a convoluted mess.

Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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But it's not just auto-update. I can disable auto-update in the Google Play Store, but at least I easily see if updates are available and can still selectively update apps with the press of one button. For me, the better solution would be F-Droid. Easy update process but the apps are mostly open-source etc.

Ah, good point. That convenience is not terribly important to me, so I didn't consider it.

fair :)

Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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> It's getting more and more difficult to use Android without a Google Account. Good that is how they shoot themselves in the foot. The more they do this, the more people will realise they need alternative and ditch Android.

Following the death of Windows phone and the earlier death of Symbian, the two options are "Android" or "iOS". This is apparently "not a monopoly".

Well, it's a duopoly. Which, since it is not literally a monopoly, often gets a pass.

Have a country with a single party you can vote for? This country will be called a dictatorship, dystopian shithole, undemocratic, whatever... Have a country with two parties which are marginally different you can vote for? Now it's just a normal democracy.

Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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Their plan is to remove them altogether. Still those apps have not been maintained in years, that's the normal course of action for apps in AOSP.

Oh wow, you're one of the guys from LineageOS right?

There's many of us :)

Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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The problem with installing APKs directly is that you probably never update these apps again, as you'd have to manually check if you still have the current version and then download the new APK and install it again. At least that's what happened with the apps I installed that way.

As someone who loathes auto-updating applications of any sort, this is more of a win than a loss.

It is a win for me not to auto-update, as Termux is very precious (to me) and I would hate to see it lose more functionality or completely stop working.

Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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> It's getting more and more difficult to use Android without a Google Account. Good that is how they shoot themselves in the foot. The more they do this, the more people will realise they need alternative and ditch Android.

Just like they've ditched Windows? People don't care about Android. They care about their apps. Some are fun, some are necessary. In my country, cash has been almost replaced by an app (just one), and it's getting harder to exist here without it (as I try to). That's just one example. I've heard of other places where compulsory national ID systems only exist as apps. And so on. Unless those apps becomes available out…

To be fair, other OSes can use the Google Play store, at least. Way back, Blackberry was somehow able to run Play Store apps, and as I understand it, many of the alternative Android roms can also use the Play Store if you wish. I'm not sure how well apps from that actually work on these phones, but most of these custom roms are AOSP anyway, so in theory it should be fine.

Apple is completely different of course: you're either in or you're out.

It would be nice if the alternative Android roms were better supported.

But you're completely correct; some apps really are almost necessary for daily life these days, depending on where you are.

Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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How are Google and Apple not monopolies? Just because we have two vendors instead of one?

You can make a case for Google tbh. Apple has what, 30% of the market at best, while every phone manufacturer uses Google by default. Heck, I don't know where to begin to brake Google's grip without seriously fragment everything. You can't escape google even if you want to, whereas with Apple you only need to switch phones.

For google, it's an open and shut case. Look up how they force numerous other companies to collude with them using their open handset aliance contract. They explicitly prohibit "forking android" which they consider creating a non-android OS with an android app loader as an "android fork".

Re: Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

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Have you looked at Obtainium? https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium It can use apkmirror and apkpure as sources. Along with lots of others.

I'm not particularly security conscious, but this seems very vulnerable to malware.

How so?
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