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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by gbraad »

privacyking wrote: post #21
gbraad wrote: post #3

I believe I have seen the same behaviour on Android for their apps.

That's different and an unfair comparison. Android will open the system browser (which will be chromium based in most instances). It can't just open the default browser because that might break certain functions of android apps if the non system default browser is broken

just checked, and Bing opens their own webview. I believe when Edge is installed they opt to use this first before. you get the option to use the default, but this is not happening without interaction. note: not going to test this further... but regardless, why not use your default!

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by dcow »

Devil’s advocate: Microsoft, an ethically unclean company, is justified in using this tactic to compete with Google, because (a) Google did it to acquire Chrome users in the first place, and (b) breaking the browser hegemony at a user mindshare level (not rendering engine level) is worth some UX pain.

Note on (a): some will argue a difference between Google advertising Chrome on Google’s property (something they could do when bootstrapping Chrome) and advertising Chrome on other people’s property (something they could not do). But here, Windows and Edge are Microsoft’s property, like it or not.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by gbraad »

microflash wrote: post #172
gbraad wrote: post #3

I believe I have seen the same behaviour on Android for their apps.

That's not my experience. I use Firefox as default browser on Android and every app opens the webview in Firefox.

also for Bing? curious to hear

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by woodruffw »

hospitalJail wrote: post #140
splendor_spoon wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a funny take I see so often parroted by the self proclaimed ‘out-crowd’. Your need to feel different and therefore superior clouds your judgment. Some users like iPhones since they are reliable and consistent, exactly like a phone should be.

>Some users like iPhones since they are reliable and consistent, exactly like a phone should be. That is just the bare minimum. Its 2023, every phone is like this. Anyway, any teenager can tell you what its like to have the wrong kind of bubbles. They are extremely susceptible to in-group bias. Heck I wore Abercrombie and American Eagle, it wasn't because the clothes fit. I even had a single buddy, age 30, recently g…

I don't think it makes sense to confuse the preferences of teenagers (a market group who, overwhelmingly, don't buy their own phones) with adults. In other words: the fact that teenagers prefer the same kind of free devices as their friends have is not particularly strong evidence that adults make purchasing decisions based on just chat bubble colors.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by [deleted] »

TX81Z wrote: post #155
13of40 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A non-dark-pattern for that would be a button on the first suggestion that lets you disable the suggestion permanently.

I think people have started using “dark pattern” to mean any UX decisions they disagree with. There is a hugely substantive difference between this feature being on by default and say, making a ”reject tracking” button in 2 point grey font. Dark patterns are primarily things that if presented equally would result in a different decision which often go directly against the users self interest. I don’t see that here.

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by extr0pian »

procarch2019 wrote: post #63
bbotond wrote: post #25

I switched to Linux 4 years ago because of these dark patterns. No regrets.

I think anyone using outlook is probably using it out of necessity for work. Not everyone can just jump to Linux when they work in a company.

I'm using Thunderbird on Linux with an Outlook work account. Granted, I have to pay for 'Owl for Exchange' for it work, but I absolutely hate the Outlook program, I'm willing to fork out the $10/yr of my own money just to avoid it.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by cma »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #119
hospitalJail wrote: post #94

The final straw for me and Windows was when I took the time to remove some annoying feature, cortana or edge, can't remember. Then an update replaced my work. It wasnt some 'uninstall program', but a multi-step process that involved registry editing. I don't feel like I have control over Windows.

I don't know if it's still happening, but for a while windows updates were helpfully "fixing" the EFI boot partition (or maybe it was a boot firmware thing, I never figured it out) by making windows primary and breaking my Linux entry . My friends would be like "do you want to play games?" and I'd be like "yeah hang on while I make some boot media so I can recover afterwards."

SteamOS Linux does this too on Steamdeck, wiping out dual boot setups on updates.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by darreninthenet »

rjh29 wrote: post #147
darreninthenet wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing... I have limited time for gaming and when I want to play I just want to sit down and play. My days of sodding about with (the equivalent of) autoexec.bat, config.sys, QEMM configurations, drivers and IRQ allocations are way way behind me for one when one of these combos of drivers and scripts doesn't work, or my game isn't supported, and I just want to spend a hour or two gaming to chill out.

Steam on Linux is like that 99% of the time. Download the game and play it.

What distro would you recommend for maximising gaming performance and compatibility do you think? Valve seem to have gone for Arch but

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by 93po »

mikepurvis wrote: post #37

Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.

I also can’t copy links from buttons without it opening a preview which causes one time links to break.
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