The Free Software Foundation is dying

Post by tptacek » Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 10:37 PM UTC

subsistence234 wrote: post #198

dragonwriter wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You believe you will never grow old? Part of growing old is handing things over to other people to carry on. > Do you wish your family and friends to turn back on you because you are old and don’t have the same energy as you had when you were 20? I don’t think the FSF is intended to be Stallman’s personal support network first and foremost, and I particularly don’t think that is the premise it has used in raising f…

> handing things over to other people to carry on. "other people" means: corporate stooges ______ not the first time in history that voices appear to demand that a leader of some project, someone with a proven track record of principles over status/power/wealth, be replaced. typically what they're really asking for is a leader that's easier to pressure, more amenable to their interests. this is even more the case if…

Post by Longlius » Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 11:05 PM UTC

philistine wrote: post #147

jmclnx wrote: post #4

>It’s time for Richard Stallman to go I was expecting to see this, there is nothing more corporations would like more then to see him gone. Then they can take full control of the FSF, already they have their hands in it. So far many of his predictions have come true and there are a few more that seems to be on their way to happening. What FSF should do is work stop the move to secure boot. Already there are Intel Lap…

I'm endlessly fascinated by people who have one major problem (inability to run unsigned code) and assign blame to another thing (secure boot). We're talking about technology here! The problem is one of implementation. And Apple, of all companies, has offered an implementation solution. Their ARM chips in Macs can boot an OS with a fully-vetted chain of trust on the same drive as a completely untrusted Linux distro.…

Post by dragonwriter » Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 11:13 PM UTC

subsistence234 wrote: post #198

dragonwriter wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You believe you will never grow old? Part of growing old is handing things over to other people to carry on. > Do you wish your family and friends to turn back on you because you are old and don’t have the same energy as you had when you were 20? I don’t think the FSF is intended to be Stallman’s personal support network first and foremost, and I particularly don’t think that is the premise it has used in raising f…

> handing things over to other people to carry on. "other people" means: corporate stooges ______ not the first time in history that voices appear to demand that a leader of some project, someone with a proven track record of principles over status/power/wealth, be replaced. typically what they're really asking for is a leader that's easier to pressure, more amenable to their interests. this is even more the case if…

Post by akerl_ » Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 11:33 PM UTC

shortrounddev wrote: post #69

ddevault wrote: post #59

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> I am not calling for non-proportional representation, or for forcing proportional representation either. Then what, precisely, are you calling for when you call for more surface-level diversity in the leadership? How do you achieve proportional representation without manual manipulation? And why do you think that DEI is the first problem worth listing? If we're criticizing Stallman as an unpopular and uncharismatic…

Post by akerl_ » Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 11:47 PM UTC

Longlius wrote: post #206

I dunno why there's such an inordinate focus on changing the FSF. The FSF is what it is. It feels like instead of going another ten rounds with the leadership, it'd be more productive for the detractors of the FSF to simply make the organization they want. Unless, of course, the goal isn't actually about organizing at all and is actually about using the FSF's brand for clout and tapping on its already established net…