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Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by itsoktocry »

dokein wrote: post #198
j-bos wrote: post #193

Bias declaration: I'm a hired Bloomtech grad, so overall a satisfied customer/student. Meta comment: It's intersting to see how many comments on any Bloomtech/Lambda post are very knee-jerk in nature, mostly negative some positive. And to be clear, I'd say most are thoughtful. The thing that strikes me is that I can't tell if this is normal HN tenor for a tech story or if it's just because I have opinions on the subj…

Over the years, I've subjectively found HN to be less optimistic. The tone of the comments here are not significantly different from many other topics. Note that I am not saying that HN is now less neutral --it may be that the current level of optimism vs. cynicism maps better to reality. That said, I think more optimism is generally better (for motivating action) if you want to start a new business or build a new te…

>Over the years, I've subjectively found HN to be less optimistic.

The largest companies on the planet, that the majority of us here earn a living from, directly or indirectly, are essentially data gathering advertising companies. I feel like the lack of optimism is justified.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by theCrowing »

j-bos wrote: post #193

Bias declaration: I'm a hired Bloomtech grad, so overall a satisfied customer/student. Meta comment: It's intersting to see how many comments on any Bloomtech/Lambda post are very knee-jerk in nature, mostly negative some positive. And to be clear, I'd say most are thoughtful. The thing that strikes me is that I can't tell if this is normal HN tenor for a tech story or if it's just because I have opinions on the subj…

It's not a normal HN tenor there is not a HN hivemind. Why is everyone trying to make themselves special by posting the same shit everytime there are comments with different views than their own. You are just biased.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by austenallred »

effingwewt wrote: post #200
austenallred wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feel free to point out where I lie

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The fact that we changed our name because of a trademark lawsuit is a matter of public record https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/4:2019cv...

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by austenallred »

gniv wrote: post #164
MivLives wrote: post #52

I graduated Lambda School and currently have been hired and work in a software position. I don't encourage people to go to... Bloomtech they're calling it now. AMA. I was earlier in the life of Lambda. I got what I needed out of it but I watched a lot who didn't.

Somewhat tangential: Lambda School sounds so much better to me than Bloomtech. Any idea why they changed it?

Because of a trademark lawsuit https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/4:2019cv...

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by austenallred »

yunohn wrote: post #166
gniv wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhat tangential: Lambda School sounds so much better to me than Bloomtech. Any idea why they changed it?

I thought it was PR white washing - https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/16/lambda-school-rebrand-bloo...

No, the fact that it was a trademark lawsuit is a matter of public record. https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/4:2019cv...

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by austenallred »

sandofsky wrote: post #179
austenallred wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh boy, you keep taking all sorts of things out of context and comparing all sorts of things that don't make any sense to each other. A couple months ago I said our outcomes currently are the best they've ever been. That is a different set of students than those included in that outcomes report, and it is from a smaller subset than an entire years' worth of average placement. If you try to take a very specific commen…

> I don't know whether it's intentional or not, but you continually, over and over, take two numbers that are not the same thing whatsoever and compare them or multiply them or whatever else and it simply makes no sense. You keep running in circles around a very simple statement that was on the front page of your website: "86% of Lambda School graduates are hired within 6 months and make over $50k a year." Just tell…

Our iOS curriculum covered memory management extensively.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by austenallred »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #181
austenallred wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say I was cheering; I was simply acknowledging that, though difficult, Twitter certainly has too many employees for the amount of revenue they're bringing in, and I am skeptical of claims that Twitter will cease to function as they go from 8,000 employees to whatever the new number is (2,500 seems to be the latest)? There's certainly internal knowledge that is lost in a transition of that kind, but the amo…

You were cheering. You’re still cheering. And you’re doing it while you’ve had continuous layoffs of your own staff that have put everyone who works for you, or anyone unfortunate enough to be part of your predatory boot camps, in jeopardy. I don’t take any joy or schadenfreude from your failures. Real people’s lives are involved and it genuinely makes me sad. But glass houses dude. Glass houses. Maybe when you’re ow…

I was not cheering, and my opinion is consistent; as money becomes much tighter companies have to rightsize themselves to the amount of revenue coming in. This is true across Silicon Valley and it is true of us.

https://twitter.com/austen/status/1588336949403611136?s=46&t...

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by lazypenguin »

sidlls wrote: post #199
lazypenguin wrote: post #195

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Yes and perhaps your bias clouds your perception or desires a more positive reception of your “alma mater”. Boot camps generally illicit a negative reaction from experienced programmers. Primarily because their primary stated goal is to give a “student” enough experience in an extremely compressed amount of time for them to enter the workforce as productive developers. The issue is that experience, by definition, can…

The experience argument seems thin: new grads have a similar issue, and yet companies have hiring programs targeting these individuals, sometimes aggressively. It seems the core of your argument is not that they are inexperienced, but rather that the bootcamps somehow convince them they are not and this leads to friction in the positions they seek and the expectations around the work they're capable of accomplishing.

Comparing to new grads is a strawman argument, I didn’t make that comparison in my orginal comment. I would argue new grads can have the same or more experience (courses, assignments & internships) yet they would still be treated as entry level when entering the industry. Regardless, I wouldn’t classify either cohort as being particularly experienced. Educated? Trained? Practiced? Sure. Not experienced. To make a bad analogy, take a soldier from a 2 year training bootcamp and put them shoulder to shoulder with a 1 year combat veteran and you will see a significant discrepancy in the majority of cases.

Yes, I personally believe that the animosity isn’t usually targeted at the fact that boot camp grads went through boot camp. Hell, programmers are most commonly self taught using free online resources for the majority of topics. My impression is because the boot camp is sold as a “get programming experience quick scheme” that most candidates would still be entry level after their program but are led to believe they are more senior.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by lazypenguin »

hancholo wrote: post #126

I've been on the fence on going to a bootcamp for years, since the dev bootcamp days because I don't feel I could complete a CS degree given all that math. I've also been in various FAANG companies the past 5 years and while not in a dev/swe role I have picked up some things as I go. The front end and user interfaces is something I've been interested for a while so I think I may pivot to front end dev or some kind of…

If you are motivated you can learn everything that’s in a boot camp on your own. However, going through a boot camp successfully is a good signal during hiring that you have some experience in programming in relavent technology. It’s much harder to signal your experience when it’s all self taught. Whether it’s good value for the money depends on your own circumstances.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by thenerdhead »

I've always been conflicted about this company. The marketing/news is always controversial(ISA, outcomes, lawsuits, etc), but clever in terms of media manipulation(more eyes on it to their service). The service is noble and good to fill the demand and change people's lives.

It's hard to use the words morally wrong and noble goals in the same sentence though given it's a contradiction.

Layoffs suck regardless though.

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