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App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Re: App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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> "Alternatives exists" sounds a lot like this fallacy The fact that an argument is superficially similar to an informal fallacy doesn't make the argument inherently fallacious. You can easily construct a variation of the same conversation which is structurally identical but is obviously not fallacious— Critic: "I want a banana, but I don't like the texture." Respondent: "If you don't like them, don't eat them." What…

I would like to access my bank, or my investment account, pay my tax. However in many cases I can only do that via an app, and apps are only available on iOS or Android. Your argument a based upon me being able to buy something from an alternative manufacturer, yet here we are. And I have to purchase Apple or Android to be able to function in society. If Apple isn't going to follow open standards yet be the largest p…

Did you reply to the right thread?

If you did, what has any of that got to do with anything I wrote? How does your complaint relate to what I’m talking about? Which open standard, specifically relevant to your ability to access your bank account and do your taxes, is Apple not following? And how is that relevant to concerns over privacy?

(Seriously, I’d like to engage with your argument but it seems like you’re confusing a discussion about the choice to buy a zero-tracking device with a unspecific complaint about standards.)

Re: App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Cutting the shit out of website is much easier compared to app. I am doing it by default.

What extension allows you to block “hover” tracking and not “click” tracking? If the website is not using a third party site for tracking, you can’t block the owner from tracking and storing your interactions.

hover tracking is done by js, hence any js stopping would do.

I personally use that + VPN that cuts the rest that sneaks in

Re: App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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What is malicious about monitoring use to provide a better product in service of users?

The monitoring is the malicious part.

Why? The act of monitoring is not inherently malicious. The word malicious has a specific meaning and definition: an intent to harm. A life guard monitoring a pool clearly isn’t acting with malice and yet is monitoring. A store CCTV camera monitoring shoppers isn’t designed to harm but rather prevent harm. So monitoring a webapp may or may not be malicious depending on the intent and effect of how the monitoring is used.

Re: App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Unless this person shows us Settings > Privacy & Security > Analytics & Improvements, the only thing I can conclude is that they left the setting on and they’re confusing third party app tracking controls with Apple’s analytics setting.

They literally say in the body of the first post, verbatim "(data usage & personalized ads are off)" If the "only thing" you can conlcude is user error, you must be unfamiliar with the insane amount of ambient telemetry iOS/MacOS collects even when disabling analytics (OCSP ring a bell?)

"Data usage & personalized ads" is not the setting I'm talking about.

Personalized Ads is a different setting than the one I described, located in the "Apple Advertising" section, not the "Analytics & Improvements" section that I think the relevant setting lives in.

"Data usage" isn't the name of any setting on iOS, that phrase is too vague to be sure what they mean.

This is why I say that I'd like to see a screenshot of the relevant settings panes. How do I know this person didn't accidentally flip them back on during an update?

OCSP isn't relevant to this issue. It's not "analytics," it does not seem to collect personal data, anonymized or not.

OCSP is used to verify/revoke certificates, essentially for the purpose of removing malware and spam, which is a basic function consumer-friendly OS: https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/420002

To me that's a really legitimate use of a "phone home" when we're talking about commercial consumer operating systems.

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