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US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by alphabetting »

colinmhayes wrote: post #166
happyopossum wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I doubt we’ll see any American military action that could lead to a deployment other than naval. Err, you other points aside - that's how you'd contest a nail blockade, with an opposing naval force.

Outright sinking more than a couple Chinese naval vessels would lead to a conflict Americans aren’t interested in.

The US government is more than willing to go to war to keep the world's chip supply out of China's hands. They're also pretty good at ginning up support back home.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by d110af5ccf »

option wrote: post #181
obblekk wrote: post #146

This doesn't just ban A100s. It bans those and "any future NVIDIA integrated circuit achieving both peak performance and chip-to-chip I/O performance equal to or greater than thresholds that are roughly equivalent to the A100." It's a ceiling on the performance that can be exported. In an exponentially scaling industry, this is the equivalent of an announcement in advance of a complete ban on competitive products 2-3…

wouldn’t a better strategy be have china depend on those product but require a sorts of built-on remote control in them in case of a conflict.

last I checked that's not what's at issue. they can't produce equivalent chips themselves and rely on them for various physics simulations that back weapons research

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Post by philjohn »

kurofune wrote: post #89

>On July 27th, Nancy & Paul Pelosi sold all 25,000 of their shares of Nvidia, $NVDA. Today $NVDA was told to restrict chip sales in China & Russia by the US Government on August 26. $NVDA is down 20% since their initial sale, -5% in after hours today. https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/156511407338962534...

Wow she could have made a killing shorting the stock ... yet didn't.

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Post by cypress66 »

crazytalk wrote: post #118
bushbaba wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPS wont get a signal in many datacenters given the amount of EM radiation

I've seen plenty of racks in my time with stuff like this installed https://www.gpssource.com/products/irms18-gps-integrated-rac...

That product mentions the roof antenna in the description.

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Post by d110af5ccf »

LeonTheremin wrote: post #199
option wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wouldn’t a better strategy be have china depend on those product but require a sorts of built-on remote control in them in case of a conflict.

Eric Schmidt, the former Google chairman, told Reuters in a recent interview that high-end processors should have kill-switches. “Knowing where the chips go is probably a very good thing. You could for example, on every chip put in essentially a public private key pair, which authenticates it and allows it to work”. hxxps://www.reuters.com/technology/chip-challenge-keeping-western-semiconductors-out-russian-weapons-2…

> You could for example, on every chip put in essentially a public private key pair, which authenticates it and allows it to work

intel SGX already involves a per-chip keypair with intel as the root of trust. it just isn't required to use the rest of the chip

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Post by nyokodo »

nikolay wrote: post #98

This is kinda ridiculous in the sense of "we've done something!" I am originally from a country, which made a lot of millionaires during the war in Yugoslavia! It makes sense to ban mass products, but niche GPUs can be imported through other countries!

> GPUs can be imported through other countries!

The chances of nothing getting through is zero, but it’s harder to do at scale and much more expensive. Plus the US does go after foreigners that help targeted nations dodge sanctions so can make it very miserable for China’s smugglers further exacerbating the shortage in China.

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Post by ethbr0 »

LeonTheremin wrote: post #199
option wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wouldn’t a better strategy be have china depend on those product but require a sorts of built-on remote control in them in case of a conflict.

Eric Schmidt, the former Google chairman, told Reuters in a recent interview that high-end processors should have kill-switches. “Knowing where the chips go is probably a very good thing. You could for example, on every chip put in essentially a public private key pair, which authenticates it and allows it to work”. hxxps://www.reuters.com/technology/chip-challenge-keeping-western-semiconductors-out-russian-weapons-2…

Did your airgapped systems get wiped remotely again, after the last time you posted about it 22 days ago?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32394353

> Eric Schmidt, the former Google chairman, told Reuters in a recent interview that high-end processors should have kill-switches.

“Knowing where the chips go is probably a very good thing. [...]

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Post by nikolay »

nyokodo wrote: post #207
nikolay wrote: post #98

This is kinda ridiculous in the sense of "we've done something!" I am originally from a country, which made a lot of millionaires during the war in Yugoslavia! It makes sense to ban mass products, but niche GPUs can be imported through other countries!

> GPUs can be imported through other countries! The chances of nothing getting through is zero, but it’s harder to do at scale and much more expensive. Plus the US does go after foreigners that help targeted nations dodge sanctions so can make it very miserable for China’s smugglers further exacerbating the shortage in China.

Not too hard though! I guarantee you that my compatriots are already preparing to get even richer!

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Post by coolspot »

janmo wrote: post #156
modeless wrote: post #84

I'm starting to think it's a good idea to stock up on all the electronics you think you might need for the next decade. Because when China finally invades Taiwan, the supply of electronic devices worldwide is going to instantly disappear. How many electronic devices do you own that don't have any part of their supply chain in China or Taiwan or adjacent countries? The COVID shortages we all saw were practically busin…

I am ready to buy every piece of hardware, smart phone, laptop, GPU in the minutes after an invasion or a blockade is announced, it will be the single best investment of a lifetime. + with such goods if you are in the EU, you have up to 14 days to send them back and get a full refund, so basically you have 14 days to resell them double the price with no downside risk.

“Minutes after” would be too late. Everything will be sold out and DDoSed hours/days before.
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