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A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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No, removing them early just reduces the chance of getting Lyme. There's no such thing as a 24 hour barrier.

The article states there is a 36 hour barrier. Do you have a source?

E.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4278789/ "in animal models, transmission can occur in or

https://www.lymedisease.org/tick-lyme-transmission-time/ "Study finds nymphal ticks can transmit Lyme within 12 hours"

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Most CDC / IDSA folks will tell you that a course of antibiotics will rid the body of Lyme in all cases. The presence of spirochetes here should be enough for them to stop using that language. But it likely won't because there appears to be a systemic organizational bias against Lyme as a chronic condition, and I'm not sure why.

Presence 4 years or so later. So, maybe the patient was infected again some time after initial treatment?

The study is a follow-up study on primates that confirmed the exact same thing, only to be dismissed "because not in humans duuuuh"

Now we have human brain autopsies. Plenty of denial right in this thread.

And then people wonder why people don't trust physicians and do not vaccinate.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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I'm so happy to see this. My dad suffered from Lyme's for years. He died 3 months ago due to Lyme's related complications. I really hope more people don't have to go what he went through. It's also comforting (I'm a misery loves company kind of way) to know other other people are dealing with, and trying to fight, the disease. It makes dealing with everything feel a bit less lonely

I’m sorry for your loss. I hope these trials go further to help more people in need.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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This is fascuinating. Fortunately I live in a state with very low numbers, both absolute and per-100k, but I was curious about how infections had spread across the country, so I found this data at the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/stats/tables.html

The really strange thing is Massachusetts. In 2010 they had 36.3 confirmed cases per 100k residents--one of the higher rates in the country at that time, but in 2019 they had .1 confirmed cases per 100k, while neighboring states remained high. I have to assume this isn't real or is some kind of artifact (not confirming, just treating?), but I wonder if anyone has any insight into this?

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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I'm a bit confused here... I thought a vaccine that protected you from Lyme disease already existed? I grew up in Latvia, and it was pretty common to get that jab. You have to get boosters every 5 years or so (which I haven't really done since I moved away) but they're supposed to protect you from the encephalitis ticks? Sorry if the terminology is wrong here. I was surprised to know that they didn't bother with that…

There used to be a human vaccine for Lyme, but it was pulled from market about 20 years ago. Interestingly, this Lyme vaccine was one of the first victims of the modern anti-vax movement.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Actually Lyme is a huge problem in southern Germany as well. Actually it seems that a lot of inflammatory joint problems stem from it that are often wrongly diagnosed.

and ticks in Germany are massive compared to the ones we get in North America.

Which lyme carrying species are you comparing? For Ixodes scapularis compared to Ixodes ricinus I see adult female sizes of 2.5 mm vs 3.6 mm. Not a huge difference. Are you sure you're not comparing larvae or nymphs to adults or even gorged adults?

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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As a US new england-er, this is game changer for walking through woods. For those un-informed, on a walk through any woods, you should always wear high socks, and do a full body check for ticks after. Deer ticks can be as small as a few grains of sand, and near undetectable if they latch on unless you have sharp eyes. Obviously they can transmit lymes. I had a close encounter a few years ago, but very luckily giant r…

I go hiking a lot in the Hudson area of New York and have my concerns about ticks too. As you said, tall sock are recommended. I also use permethrin on all my lower items of clothing including shoes. I sometimes also use Off on my exposed skin areas and then check for ticks after my hikes. My wife was once bitten by something through her pants. That left a small ring. I do doubt it was a tick though. My sister on the…

Lint rollers after a hike/walk isn't a bad idea either.

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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This is fascuinating. Fortunately I live in a state with very low numbers, both absolute and per-100k, but I was curious about how infections had spread across the country, so I found this data at the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/stats/tables.html The really strange thing is Massachusetts. In 2010 they had 36.3 confirmed cases per 100k residents--one of the higher rates in the country at that time, but in 2019 they…

Well spotted. It's a reporting artifact: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ZpyQMEthstNKhKNJQ/massachuse...

Re: A shot to prevent Lyme disease could be on its way

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Wasn't there already a shot being made a long time ago but was shut down due to a whole lot of hot air from critics and anti-vaxxers? https://time.com/6073576/lyme-disease-vaccine/

Yes. In my eyes, the original Lyme vaccine was the first casualty of the modern anti-vax movement.

They claimed that the vaccine gave them Lyme when really the vaccine gave them an immune response for a few days... as vaccines should. Through a huge amount of media attention they scared away the pharma company, they stopped marketing, sales tanked, the vax was pulled. No medical issues with the vaccine were ever discovered.

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