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Citizen’s dangerous effort to cash in on vigilantism

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These days? Well, the last 40 years... CNN started in 1980.

'Extra Extra Read All About it!' from anon newspaper kid standing on the street-corner ~100+ years ago (probably older).

Yeah.... remember The Maine ?

Re: Citizen’s dangerous effort to cash in on vigilantism

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Everything is "BREAKING NEWS" these days, complete with fancy graphics and soundtracks. But there just isn't enough news day-to-day to warrant that level of importance. Not everyday is 9/11, much to news outlets' dismay.

In The Newsroom the crew of an evening news show would call their network’s control room and “break in” to the broadcast out of turn, when something really important was happening. If the term has any coherent meaning I expect it’s that. Worth interrupting other programming for. On a 24x7 news network, probably meaningless.

Related meanings of break are older than the telegraph.[1] Maybe the printing press.

[1] https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/break+it+to+you

Re: Citizen’s dangerous effort to cash in on vigilantism

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I want to try my hand at the n-gate.com summary for this one: "Some webshits finish The Wire and answer the question we've all been wondering since the finale aired: why didn't the Baltimore Police simply write an app to crowdsource 'juking the stats'? Citizen (Uber for Reddit's Boston Bomber Fiasco) is born, but Apple doesn't have time to review it as they are busy finishing their own dystopian surveillance nightmar…

Webshits continue the war against people who aren’t webshits, is the lede you were looking for.

Wow, flagged in 30 seconds. Touchy crowd. Getting a little close to reckoning on the Web’s impact on your neighbors, eh? Don’t worry: I know you showdead, those of you most responsible for where we are.

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In case people are missing the broader point of the article, beyond the horrifying incident at the beginning: "The whole idea behind Protect is that you could convince people to pay for the product once you’ve gotten them to the highest point of anxiety you can possibly get them to," one former employee said, referring to Citizen's subscription service. "Citizen can’t make money unless it makes its users believe ther…

As an observer from the other side of the pond, I do feel that there's lots of companies built on unsubstantiated fear in the US. Times change and so do the threats, but in a nutshell: •Nuclear bunkers to keep your family safe. •Big guns because they will come for you. •All sorts of tracking devices for kids. •Surveillance systems for homes So the latest seems to be a modern day witch-hunting for masses.

You missed: bigger SUV/truck.

Re: Citizen’s dangerous effort to cash in on vigilantism

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I don't use Nextdoor or the Neighbors app but I get the impression that they work in a similar fashion - get the worried people in the area all worked up about every little thing - keep them thinking they are under constant threat.

Holy cow, the single biggest benefit to Nextdoor? Learning which of your neighbors are racist or otherwise ... problematic. "Suspicious person on Elm Street, lock your cars!" is usually thinly veiled "I saw someone black walking their dog". It's horrific at times.

Have you ever stopped to wonder whether you have been similarly goaded into believing your neighborhood is flush with nazis and white supremacists?

Re: Citizen’s dangerous effort to cash in on vigilantism

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an observer from the other side of the pond, I do feel that there's lots of companies built on unsubstantiated fear in the US. Times change and so do the threats, but in a nutshell: •Nuclear bunkers to keep your family safe. •Big guns because they will come for you. •All sorts of tracking devices for kids. •Surveillance systems for homes So the latest seems to be a modern day witch-hunting for masses.

It's not just US. It's the whole western world, everywhere where modern market economy took hold. Look beyond the obvious cases, and you'll see it. For instance: - I've already mentioned parents upthread. You can sell them any kind of crap if you even hint at some obscure danger to health or life of a newborn. Half of the market of products for parents/small children is based on that. The other half runs on a combina…

I think the kernel of the problem is this: you make money by selling a solution to a problem that someone has. You can do this by looking at the existing set of problems and coming up with a solution (product, service). This is good. BUT you can also do this by creating NEW problems and then selling a solution to those. It seems to me to be a fundamental problem in our economy and in our politics.

Re: Citizen’s dangerous effort to cash in on vigilantism

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In case people are missing the broader point of the article, beyond the horrifying incident at the beginning: "The whole idea behind Protect is that you could convince people to pay for the product once you’ve gotten them to the highest point of anxiety you can possibly get them to," one former employee said, referring to Citizen's subscription service. "Citizen can’t make money unless it makes its users believe ther…

I don't use Nextdoor or the Neighbors app but I get the impression that they work in a similar fashion - get the worried people in the area all worked up about every little thing - keep them thinking they are under constant threat.

I got involved with Nextdoor as I’m on a board for a community organization and would answer questions, etc.

Our city’s Nextdoor is pretty great, the biggest annoyance are the people focused on cats and their various woes.

Recently Nextdoor decided to mix it up and started making changes allowing some limited visibility of surrounding suburbs. Oh boy.

The mix of superiority and fear in the suburbanites are incredible. They are angry about a county bike trail because “undesirables” may bike into their town. There’s petitions in opposition to turn lanes on a roadway for some batshit reasons, racist comments about players on a city high school baseball team, etc.

Bikes and bike lanes are particularly contentious, which is weird because kids out there bike everywhere. (Worried about undesirable people again)

It’s a really aspect of society that I honestly never witnessed in person.

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