Cool but when can we have Mac on linux?
It's here, but you'll need a PowerPC Mac, it won't work with m68k hardware.
Lima: Linux-on-Mac
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Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#202It's just a "better integrated" virtual machine: "Lima launches Linux virtual machines on macOS" This might be a controversial opinion, but I find developers flocking to macOS really bewildering. As a developer, why do you want to fight your operating system to get basic things done? This Lima thing, docker running in a virtual machine, Apple being actively hostile with the default coreutils requiring you to layer mu…
Here's why I moved away from Linux to macOS: - I'm sorry, but no Linux DE I've ever used beats macOS in terms of stability. The file explorers are also a joke and frequently changing. - I've never booted to a black screen when upgrading macOS. - 99% of the work I do never needs anything that has to be virtualized under macOS. - Macbooks are solid laptops. Every other laptop I've owned hasn't stood the test of time as…
> I've never booted to a black screen when upgrading macOS.
I never had Linux physically damage my hardware after an update, MacOS sure did.
Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's why I moved away from Linux to macOS: - I'm sorry, but no Linux DE I've ever used beats macOS in terms of stability. The file explorers are also a joke and frequently changing. - I've never booted to a black screen when upgrading macOS. - 99% of the work I do never needs anything that has to be virtualized under macOS. - Macbooks are solid laptops. Every other laptop I've owned hasn't stood the test of time as…
Dont' forget: - Multi- and highres monitor support out of the box with proper scaling and readable fonts - A package manager with up to date packages (granted there are Linuxbrew and things like Snap now for Linux.) - Applications that have a consistent UI/UX and all use the same keyboard shortcuts > All the customization doesn't offset the trouble that desktop Linux can bring. It's nice you can customize almost ever…
> Multi- and highres monitor support out of the box with proper scaling and readable fonts
My M1 mini has all kinds of issues with 2 4k monitors attached. Sometimes waking up from sleep, the monitor plugged into TB scales to default setting (200%?) instead my config (125%). And don't get me started on Ultra Wide support.
Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm sorry, but no Linux DE I've ever used beats macOS in terms of stability. The file explorers are also a joke and frequently changing. Dolphin on KDE hasn’t changed in 10 years and is far more functional than Finder. Frankly I think Finder is an appalling file manager so I’m surprised to hear anyone advocate it. > MacBooks are solid laptops. Every other laptop I've owned hasn't stood the test of time as well as m…
I wouldn’t say I work with files a lot, but when I do, Finder seems to work ‘fine’. What do you find ‘appalling’ about it? If I’m missing the option to make my life much easier by using an alternative I’d like to at least try something else out.
You know those completely useless files (.DS_Store, ._foo.bar, etc.) that you see whenever you expand an archive or clone a repository from a developer who uses a Mac? Finder drops those turds.
Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#205It's just a "better integrated" virtual machine: "Lima launches Linux virtual machines on macOS" This might be a controversial opinion, but I find developers flocking to macOS really bewildering. As a developer, why do you want to fight your operating system to get basic things done? This Lima thing, docker running in a virtual machine, Apple being actively hostile with the default coreutils requiring you to layer mu…
Yes, I am the same way. As soon as you leave some tiny sandbox whose borders I can't even make out, development on macOS is absolute hell and the world breaks every new version.
I guess macos devs just know how to confine themselves better to the sandbox than me (don't use other shell, don't use postgresql, only do web/jvm/interpretted language programing, never ever need a C library that isn't installed?)
NixOS doesn't make the things linux is bad at better, but it sure makes the things linux is better at better, so the difference between linux and macOS for me is especially stark.
Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#206Why would I want this as opposed to Vagrant, or Multipass even?
Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#207It's just a "better integrated" virtual machine: "Lima launches Linux virtual machines on macOS" This might be a controversial opinion, but I find developers flocking to macOS really bewildering. As a developer, why do you want to fight your operating system to get basic things done? This Lima thing, docker running in a virtual machine, Apple being actively hostile with the default coreutils requiring you to layer mu…
Why do you assume running a bunch or GNU utilities and Linux chroots (“containers”) is something developers need generally? Only developers working on specific things and working in pretty specific ways will need that. Maybe that’s a lot of the folks here on Hacker News, but it’s not, say, the millions of people doing iOS development.
Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#208It's just a "better integrated" virtual machine: "Lima launches Linux virtual machines on macOS" This might be a controversial opinion, but I find developers flocking to macOS really bewildering. As a developer, why do you want to fight your operating system to get basic things done? This Lima thing, docker running in a virtual machine, Apple being actively hostile with the default coreutils requiring you to layer mu…
> I find developers flocking to macOS really bewildering. As a developer, why do you want to fight your operating system to get basic things done?
Why is it hard to grasp that different people have different needs and experiences?
Maybe you would have to fight macOS. Others have to fight Linux, or Windows, or Android, or iOS. There’s a reason not everyone is on the same platforms.
Developers, like scotsmen[1], aren’t an amorphous group.
Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn’t say I work with files a lot, but when I do, Finder seems to work ‘fine’. What do you find ‘appalling’ about it? If I’m missing the option to make my life much easier by using an alternative I’d like to at least try something else out.
You know those completely useless files (.DS_Store, ._foo.bar, etc.) that you see whenever you expand an archive or clone a repository from a developer who uses a Mac? Finder drops those turds.
Who cares?
Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac
#210Ligma?
What's Ligma?