Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U.S. labor board

Post by astrange » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 10:10 AM UTC

weyland108 wrote: post #198

astrange wrote: post #174

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Only in the US setup. Europe uses codetermination and other systems that align them with their employers. Although they tend to get paid less than US tech companies, but so does everyone.

What ? Seems like I am better of without a union if I am getting more pay?. Also where is the conversation around building a better product to add more value in this union debate?

Post by throwaway2048 » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 10:20 AM UTC

fastball wrote: post #73

boustrophedon wrote: post #22

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> And Tesla should be allowed every opportunity to stop them. We've tried this. People died over it. We enacted laws to prevent it from happening, so that labor can stand on equal ground with capital.

Yeah, pretty sure shooting people is not what GC meant by "every opportunity".

Post by trepatudo » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 10:26 AM UTC

darawk wrote: post #136

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> Germany's most productive city is Berlin Where did you get this from? Germany is actually the only country in the EU where GDP per capita is higher when the capital is excluded. Munich is at 80,000€, Frankfurt (Main) 95,000€, Hamburg 60,000€, Berlin 40,000€ [1]. Germany is highly federated, with large companies near or in small towns or cities that only exist because the company was founded there decades or centuri…

> Where did you get this from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_cities_by_GDP > Germany is actually the only country in the EU where GDP per capita is higher when the capital is excluded. Munich is at 80,000€, Frankfurt (Main) 95,000€, Hamburg 60,000€, Berlin 40,000€ [1]. I was using the city with the highest absolute GDP. That's a fair point that Munich has a higher GDP per capita. > You are talking abou…

Post by makomk » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 10:37 AM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #180

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The Taft-Hartley Act banned closed shops in 1947: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_shop#United_States It's literally the first line of that section.

So why are so many people in this thread complaining about "having" to join a union?

Post by ChuckNorris89 » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 10:42 AM UTC

kome wrote: post #204

villgax wrote: post #85

people need to look at the AmazonNews twitter handle, spews corpo BS at every turn almost like some intern got hold of that account

holy fucking shit... https://twitter.com/AmazonNews you are right. woah. they are scared. they are really scared. it's like amazon entire business model is based on exploitation of labor.