It's ironic Reddit went through a major redesign that many of it's users complained about to make the site mobile friendly only to completely ruin the mobile UI/UX by constantly spamming users with prompts to install the app. Now the desktop users of the new site get all the annoyances of a mobile UI and mobile users can't use the site without an app. Brilliant!
"This community is available in the app"
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
An alternative to Reddit? It's a monopoly. Where are you going to go? Voat? They can be as horrible to their users as they want. As long as they have cat pictures on the front page, nobody cares enough to change anything. I think we're all getting exactly what is deserved by collectively allowing a monopoly to form. (I'm not suggesting there should be legal action. I'm saying, by the laws of exponential curves and po…
Reddit is the flavor of the month. It's been a long month, but before Reddit there was digg, kuro5hin, plastic, something awful, slashdot. Myspace was the flavor of the month. Now it is facebook/imgur/snapchat. But before it was friendster, AIM, MSN, ICQ etc. Maybe next it will be Discord or Son Of Discord. The wheel continues to turn. I have zero faith Reddit will command the market share it does today, in 2030.
Something Awful still exists and is still very active, last time I checked.
Re: "This community is available in the app"
#203Reddit has been a/b testing behavior like this for months. Multiple different popups with variations on "view this in the app"; in some cases the popup is on every single page load, sometimes only once. They started blurring images on select subreddits with a message that you could only view the sub in their app. Okay, I know they're chasing one of two things here: a higher level of revenue from the advertising they…
I worked for a company that did something similar (and is mentioned elsewhere in these threads). We a/b tested it, and just from the metrics, getting someone to download the app was so valuable from a stickiness perspective that it _looked_ like it was worth the negative effects. You're right though, from a user trust perspective it's pretty horrendous. Regardless of whether that was measurable or not, there are thin…
I suspect "stickiness" is an important part of the equation for Reddit as well. With an app they can send notifications, and thereby program the habits of their users.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Browser choice does exist on iOS. I use Brave.
All browsers on iphones are reskinned webkits.
Brave is reskinned Chromium everywhere else, and reskinned Webkit on iOS.
People who use Brave use it for reasons other than access to a unique rendering engine. Many of those reasons apply to the iOS version as well.
Not making a case for Apple's decision here. I'd be happy if Gecko were available on iOS; there's no way I'd burn my battery like that, but competition is good.
But it's not as simple as "there's one browser on iOS" either, the rendering engine is just one part of what makes a browser unique and useful.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe so, but could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebaity comments to HN?
I wouldn't think I am - I've had a bad run with the last few, but I do endeavor to post seriously, I'm not rude in comment threads, and what I am posting is not unrelated to the topic. If you disagree, please let me know and I'll take a look at them. To elaborate on my comment, which I think is neither insubstantive nor flamebait: It's absurd to suggest that users are not to blame here. On one hand, they complain abo…
From the outside, you've been posting a lot of low effort comments. Take this one for example --- if the 'elaboration' was part of the first comment, it would have been solid. As it was, it only addressed people who already agreed with your unspoken conclusion. Yes, it's more effort to make the full comment the first time, but it makes for a better site overall.
I comment here because I upvoted several of your comments on the Mike Godwin thread earlier today because I thought they were unfairly downvoted. But even in those cases, you probably could have prevented the downvotes if you'd spent a little more effort of making your case in the opening comment, rather than defending it in the followups.
Your point of view is appreciated, so please stick around despite the downvotes. But at the same time, please take the effort to post higher quality initial comments so that you avoid most of those downvotes.
Re: "This community is available in the app"
#206I think a better strategy would have been to have an ugly and outdated mobile site where users cannot install RES.
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#207Whenever Reddit, or any other website, tells me to install their app, I make sure that I never install their app. In fact other than maybe 5 or less apps, I only use a browser.
The problem is that you and I are in the minority on this. Most people install the app, and all the tracking and data collection and geolocation that comes with it. Soon, almost all mass media will be consumed this way. This is just the latest installment of the mounting assault on the free and open web. Mark my words: the web is in danger.
I share your belief, I think the web is in danger too. Even more than the terrible state of these walled garden social networks and terrible app permissions, is the threat of Google AMP. There has been an uncoordinated but pervasive attempt to capture networks of users, but for profit motives.
I also fear that with the increase in nationalism around the world, and cyber warfare becoming more serious, that even traditionally liberal governments will start exerting more control on their networks. Specifically, not just to protect strategic interests, but to restrict ideas. Particularly since foreign governments have begun to use social networks for propaganda purposes.
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#208I gave up on read Quora when they forced logins I will give up on reddit if they do the same. Isn't visits a valid criteria? Why force a mobile app?
Basically I have some toy accounts for those sites, in names that read somewhat like Fortran variables, sans meaning. Currently using this thing called 33mail. Temp-mail works most times too, but 33mail forwards me the emails so I can even use forgot password option. On a relevant note, there are few websites that provide temporary phone numbers if you're from US/Canada, or in contexts US/Canada temporary phone numbe…
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Re: "This community is available in the app"
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't think I am - I've had a bad run with the last few, but I do endeavor to post seriously, I'm not rude in comment threads, and what I am posting is not unrelated to the topic. If you disagree, please let me know and I'll take a look at them. To elaborate on my comment, which I think is neither insubstantive nor flamebait: It's absurd to suggest that users are not to blame here. On one hand, they complain abo…
From the outside, you've been posting a lot of low effort comments. Take this one for example --- if the 'elaboration' was part of the first comment, it would have been solid. As it was, it only addressed people who already agreed with your unspoken conclusion. Yes, it's more effort to make the full comment the first time, but it makes for a better site overall. I comment here because I upvoted several of your commen…
Thank you for the feedback; I truly appreciate it. However, I am unsure whether it actually holds true; the elaborating comment to which you are replying currently stands at -1.
It's supported behavior to downvote comments based on disagreement[0][1], so it seems like the system is working as it should.
Re: "This community is available in the app"
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, the people who built Reddit no longer run Reddit.
Actually, they're back. They just have a lot more investor money they need to show returns on this time.
I meant this both literally and metaphorically. No one is the same person after 15 years, but sometimes the same principles remain. Maybe theirs haven't.
Further, I don't know how big the original team was, but I doubt the majority of the founders are still there. It is, largely, approximately, under different management.