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Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by SrslyJosh »

greedo wrote: post #71
semiotagonal wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That reads less like a reasonable, well-thought breakdown and more like a whiny diatribe coming from an entitled teenager. A customer is legitimately entitled to upgrades that aren't actually downgrades. > Apple isn't forcing anyone to upgrade at all. > Just don't act surprised and attacked when it doesn't work anymore years from now. Well... if Apple isn't forcing people to upgrade now, but will later, then there'…

A customer isn't entitled to any upgrades. Apple used to charge for upgrades in the past. Now they give them away for free. Apple has never forced anyone on to upgrade their Macs. I have a fourteen year old Mac Pro that still works fine. Sure it can't run Catalina, but I don't need it to. And complaining? Complaining about what? You act as if Apple is bricking computers if you don't upgrade...

No, they're just bricking apps if you do upgrade.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

chmaynard wrote: post #39
Ididntdothis wrote: post #11

They totally destroyed audiobooks in what used to be iTunes. No smart lists, can’t edit MP3 tags, can’t delete or listen to single tracks, can’t store files on external drive. I don’t understand how anybody could think this was a good idea. Why destroying functionality that worked and replace it with something that barely works? This is a huge disappointment.

Exactly. I use iTunes every day to manage a very large music library. It works very well and has the features I need. I spent years learning how to use it well. I see no reason to give it up now. Could Apple have kept iTunes intact and simply removed the non-essential components? Of course, but it would have been expensive and time-consuming. If iTunes is truly obsolete, Apple should release the source code and let a…

iTunes was a bloated mess, I'm glad to see the back of it.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by SrslyJosh »

dkonofalski wrote: post #15

That reads less like a reasonable, well-thought breakdown and more like a whiny diatribe coming from an entitled teenager. If the entire argument boils down to "I don't wanna!", then what's the point? Don't upgrade. Apple isn't forcing anyone to upgrade at all. If you need to run all your old software, don't upgrade. That's not a fault of the new OS. Technology changes. That's a fact of life. Even the example of Aper…

I think you just came here to tell OP that he's wrong for having different priorities than you do.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by willtim »

newnewpdro wrote: post #66
curt15 wrote: post #28

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>I avoid arbitrary web browsing on my Linux laptop and just use it for coding. What makes web browsers less secure on Linux than on macOS?

Unless you're going out of your way to run your browser in a container or dedicated VM on Linux, there are substantial risks associated with browsing the web in terms of exposing all of your information in /home, which might include ssh and pgp private keys, basically everything your user can access. But we have a number of solutions for running things in containers if you just use them. Early on firejail was popular…

Both Chrome and Firefox have support for sandboxing on Linux. For the security conscious, there's always the Xen/Linux Qubes distribution, which is considerably more secure than MacOS.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by teekert »

My father feels the same, he initially started using apple because he felt his Windows machine was using too much of his time for bs. Now he just upgraded to Catalina and Photos stopped working with this Synology based library, even I, a computer nerd, have already spend an hour at the problem. We are about done. I feel that Windows 10 would be just fine for him (or maybe I can get him sold on Ubuntu). Where pictures are simply in folders and any backup program will just sync them anywhere.

My in laws are very happy on Ubuntu Mate, it looks like old Windows (after changing one setting), and the Pictures and the email app are simple and clean. It's all they do.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by philwelch »

dkonofalski wrote: post #124
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As it happens, the author isn't upgrading.

And your point is? I've already acknowledged that. I'm pointing out that a disappointment for their individual situation doesn't indicate that the update is a failure nor does it warrant what they've written.

What's your point? For someone who's entire argument is just to accuse people of being whiny and entitled, you're being particularly whiny and entitled when it comes to other people having different opinions than you.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by mihaaly »

jwr wrote: post #184

I fully agree with the author, and I am also worried about how Apple treats its users. And I am also an abandoned Aperture user, with huge libraries full of organized albums with non-destructive edits. I still do not know what to do about that. Having read most of the comments, I got the impression that you could correlate them with age. Younger people are all "Catalina works for me! Progress! Change is necessary! Wh…

In my young ages I was hungry for new technology, learning and adapting the progress, experimenting. Nowadays I am for something that works and can be used for what I need. Apple is good in the first, and gives no f* about the second. Their products - including hardware - is for the young. I think I am going to accept that and 'adapt mindset' to this premise as an ultimate step of not 'resisting change'. (I already gave up on the hardware btw)

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by KibbutzDalia »

arvinsim wrote: post #181
deanclatworthy wrote: post #172

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That’s why as a creative you should be using a backup solution. With modern internet connections backing up is quick and efficient. File loss should be expected on the FS. Many things can and will go wrong one day.

Having a backup still doesn't excuse Catalina for that bug.

Apparently it does for the Apple zealots.

Re: Mac OS Catalina: more trouble than it’s worth

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Post by KibbutzDalia »

morrick wrote: post #80
amiantos wrote: post #21

Author hasn't tried Catalina, and their biggest complaint appears to be that the email app allegedly has a new UI--but I don't think it does. Mail app looks the same in Catalina, doesn't it? I can't say I noticed any differences. Either way, this is an extremely long blog post to say basically just "I don't like change, and I'm not willing to see change as a potential improvement to try to accept it".

I am the author, and I may be guilty of writing an extremely long blog post; but judging by your response, you didn't bother to read it that thoroughly. The new layout in Catalina's Mail.app is actually my smallest complaint. I don't like change when it unnecessarily breaks things that used to work just fine. I don't like change when it is haphazardly imposed on a yearly basis by a company which has clearly stopped c…

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