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After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #102

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Something from Steven Pinker maybe?

'Things are getting better' != 'things are already great'.

But if things have been getting better for 200 years non-stop, then that supports my point (life is the easiest it's ever been, even if it's still difficult).

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #160

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You clearly have zero understanding or empathy for what living in deep poverty actually entails.

To be fair, the poster he replied to doesn't either. The only people living in deep poverty in the US are actively avoiding the help that is available to them. It has been argued that the poor in the US have it worse than the poor in Europe, but in neither case are they are in deep poverty.

Three million people in the US were living on less than $1.90 a day in 2013, and five million on less than $4.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/opinion/poverty-united-st...

Extreme poverty in the US is real: https://www.al.com/news/2017/12/un_poverty_official_touring_...

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #191

> Car2Go sent several workers to retrieve the vehicles, only to find that a group of thieves had claimed them as their own. Some blocked the vehicles in to prevent repossession; others threatened the company’s employees, according to someone with knowledge of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity. How come they haven't contacted the police immediately after that? Also, they mentioned that people sublet th…

From personal experience driving for Uber, I've noticed that facial recognition technology isn't that accurate if you're not white.

Don't they use Mechanical Turks as a fallback?

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #133

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I think this is inaccurate and you need citations to justify the idea that those in deep poverty are better off then they were 25, 50, 100 years ago. Health outcomes, (obesity, nutrition, drug addiction ) could easily be worse. Security outcomes, (violent crime, domestic violence, police violence) could easily be worse. Economic outcomes (job security, lifetime earning expectations, minimum wage) could easily be wors…

There is no way that Health and Security outcomes are worse today than maybe 50 years ago. The crime rate has fallen dramatically since the 90s, and health outcomes are dramatically improved between advancement of medical tech and generally improved care. Do we have an obesity problem? Sure, that's kind of a self caused issue. You could blame our food being too cheap, but the alternative is starving to death which is…

So it should be easy for you to find sources.

Life Expectancy in the US is going down [1]. That's happening as many people are living longer than ever. The difference comes from plummeting life expectancies at the bottom.

Real minimum wages peaked in the 1980's [2]

Calling obesity "self caused" is unreasonable. Access to food, particularly for poor people is very different today than at any time in the past, Malnutrition is totally possible alongside sufficient caloric intake.

Why is the cost of "luxury goods" relevant to anything?

[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/21/health/us-life-expectancy...

[2] https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-real-value-u-s-...

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the poster he replied to doesn't either. The only people living in deep poverty in the US are actively avoiding the help that is available to them. It has been argued that the poor in the US have it worse than the poor in Europe, but in neither case are they are in deep poverty.

Three million people in the US were living on less than $1.90 a day in 2013, and five million on less than $4. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/opinion/poverty-united-st... Extreme poverty in the US is real: https://www.al.com/news/2017/12/un_poverty_official_touring_...

I'm skeptical of the $1.90 a day number. Those people would be dead. You literally cannot buy enough food to eat with that much money. Since we generally don't see millions of people dying of starvation in the U.S., some part of the equation must be missing.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #199

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It seems like the thieves were mostly targeting Mercedes and other high end cars. It seems like there is an easy solution to just rent domestic mid-size cars and/or add the extra security checks in for people who want luxury cars. Car2Go made it too easy to steal luxury cars seems more like the real issue.

Maybe, but at the other end are the bike- and scooter-share systems. I suspect the perceived cheapness of the products contributes to how many of them end up thrown off the ends of piers. Personally, I really miss Car2Go's old SMART cars. They sucked. They sucked sooooo bad. They were terrible cars. I hated them! But they were damned easy to park, they were dead-simple to operate, and they were easy to spot on the st…

Yeah, the Smarts were great. And you could pop the rear window open and tuck a bike in the back, with the wheel wedged under the front seat and the front fork sticking out the car. Best car for supplementing bike transit.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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'Things are getting better' != 'things are already great'.

But if things have been getting better for 200 years non-stop, then that supports my point (life is the easiest it's ever been, even if it's still difficult).

It sort of supports your point about life getting better, on average. It doesn't support your other point, "it really drives home how utterly unfit for modern life a person has to be to justify a life of crime in 2019". We're nowhere near the point where choosing the criminal life means one is unfit for modern society. Not only some people are still forced into it by circumstances, a lot of crime thrives in the conditions of modern society.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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This is interesting to me because when I worked at car2go a few years ago something similar happened. They updated the app sign-up process with a step where you had to take a photograph of your driver's license with your phone, and then take a photo of yourself (to confirm that the license you were signing up with was indeed yourself). These two photographs were not checked manually but were "analyzed" but a facial r…

There’s a start up called TruePic that’s building a solution to this problem. Basically their platform helps you get trusted pictures from users.

https://truepic.com/

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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But if things have been getting better for 200 years non-stop, then that supports my point (life is the easiest it's ever been, even if it's still difficult).

It sort of supports your point about life getting better, on average . It doesn't support your other point, "it really drives home how utterly unfit for modern life a person has to be to justify a life of crime in 2019". We're nowhere near the point where choosing the criminal life means one is unfit for modern society. Not only some people are still forced into it by circumstances, a lot of crime thrives in the cond…

I'm not saying that choosing a life of criminality is evidence that someone is unfit for modern life. Instead, I'm saying that someone would have to be incredibly unfit for modern life to justify criminality by pointing to modern life being difficult (which is what the person I was responding to was saying). Those are two different arguments. I actually mostly agree with you.
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