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After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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If a control system's output is uncorrelated with what it is controlling, then it's not really controlling it. Also, to see a clear linear correlation, you might need to know what you're looking for. A controller output may look uncorrelated with the target system state, until you realize it's a I controller, so you need to look for correlation between controller's output and the integral of the system's state.

Let’s say there is a system that controls whether a second system receives input from random source A or random source B, and there is some difference in the distribution of values generated from each source. Starting without knowing the relationship between the two systems, is there a good general approach that could pick out what it is doing?

Replace the system with one that chooses A only; replace it with one that chooses B only; analyze distributions; analyze original system.

Or replace A with known non-random source, and then B, and analyze.

I'm not sure what the argument is though. If something has an effect, there will be a correlation. Measuring the correlation may require modifying the system. We've known that measurement unavoidably affects the system under measurement for some time now. It's just a matter of degree.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #97

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FWIW, there has never been an easier time to be alive. When you frame things like that, it really drives home how utterly unfit for modern life a person has to be to justify a life of crime in 2019. Life is always a struggle, but we’re not exactly living in a Dickens novel.

Perhaps it's time to repurpose all that time set aside for classical fiction literature to pick up some contemporary non-fiction.

Something from Steven Pinker maybe?

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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I'm still waiting for the startup that solves the burning problem of a lack of healthy food options in poor minority neighborhoods. A twice weekly food truck that offered fresh healthy produce and meats at reasonable prices would greatly improve health and well-being in those areas.

Aren't you worried that such a startup will run up against the same systemic biases that have been preventing poor minority neighborhoods from accessing healthy food at reasonable prices for decades? In other words, food truck entrepreneurs have been around for decades, so why doesn't the service you imagine exist yet? Because so far no one with the right motivation, i.e., no one with their heart in the right place,…

Poor neighbourhoods with immigrants have plenty of cheap healthy food in America. Those areas that’s don’t lack it because there’s no demand for it.

> The Geography of Poverty and Nutrition: Food Deserts and Food Choices Across the United States

> We study the causes of “nutritional inequality”: why the wealthy tend to eat more healthfully than the poor in the U.S. Using two event study designs exploiting entry of new supermarkets and households’ moves to healthier neighborhoods, we reject that neighborhood environments have economically meaningful effects on healthy eating. Using a structural demand model, we find that exposing low-income households to the same food availability and prices experienced by high-income households would reduce nutritional inequality by only 9%, while the remaining 91% is driven by differences in demand. In turn, these income-related demand differences are partially explained by education, nutrition knowledge, and regional preferences. These findings contrast with discussions of nutritional inequality that emphasize supply-side issues such as food deserts.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w24094

https://web.stanford.edu/~diamondr/AllcottDiamondDube_FoodDe...

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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I still can't wrap my head around it why car rental companies like Hertz and Avis don't have this market completely cornered. They have the infrastructure, the assets, the know-how. Why is it still so inconvenient to get a car through them ?

Exactly! They are asleep at the wheel. German car rental company Sixt does this now.

Enterprise bought out the car share system which started in the city I live in.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Translation: Keep your expensive stuff away from brown people. Kind of a disgusting attitude that isn’t acceptable for a business with aspirations of displacing personal cars. This happened in the 90s with rental cars. Organized insurance fraud (fake accidents with fake or overblown injuries) was incredibly rampant in Brooklyn, to the point that renting cars without significant deposits became difficult if you were f…

> Keep your expensive stuff away from brown people Why drag race into this? I’m sure the discussion was then same for concentrations of certain socioeconomic classes of people of any and all colors.

Some people think about and talk about race all day every day. Some of them are open racists and some of them aren’t.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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The anonymity that these car sharing services provide is already an issue. In my neighbourhood car2go are the most likely to be recklessly driving and harassing people in the streets. They should be tightening their policy not loosening it. I really believe there needs to be a standard for this (if one doesn't already exist).

It probably varies from city to city, but I always assumed that the reason car-sharing drivers are worse than others on average is just because they get less practice, are more likely to have learned to drive in a different country (with different traffic rules, layout of bike lanes, etc.) and perhaps don't know their way around as well (so they're experiencing a heavier cognitive load).

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #102
post #97

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Perhaps it's time to repurpose all that time set aside for classical fiction literature to pick up some contemporary non-fiction.

Something from Steven Pinker maybe?

'Things are getting better' != 'things are already great'.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #106

The anonymity that these car sharing services provide is already an issue. In my neighbourhood car2go are the most likely to be recklessly driving and harassing people in the streets. They should be tightening their policy not loosening it. I really believe there needs to be a standard for this (if one doesn't already exist).

It probably varies from city to city, but I always assumed that the reason car-sharing drivers are worse than others on average is just because they get less practice, are more likely to have learned to drive in a different country (with different traffic rules, layout of bike lanes, etc.) and perhaps don't know their way around as well (so they're experiencing a heavier cognitive load).

"self-drive truck hire" is pretty much the same.

People who don't really know how to drive a truck are suddenly put in control, and lots of accidents happen...

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #79

How is this "sharing?" This seems like app-based short term rentals little different from what I could get from Avis and the like. My initial thought was that this was allowing individuals to rent out their cars and my reaction was a hard 'oh hell no.' What's the term from the various "my expensive camera /lens was stolen" stories? Voluntary parting? Pretty sure that would apply to your nice car as well.

I still can't wrap my head around it why car rental companies like Hertz and Avis don't have this market completely cornered. They have the infrastructure, the assets, the know-how. Why is it still so inconvenient to get a car through them ?

In the UK, those companies all require a driving license, passport, credit card, many thousand pound deposit, credit check, 2 bank statements, and a code from the government showing driving offenses...

They then proceed to print off paper forms which they staple other forms to, scan them in, print them off again, fax them to the headquarters before emailing them as well, and print them out a third time just for luck, before finally handing out the keys to the car.

Either the whole industry is unreasonably scared of theft, or theft is an actual problem and they need to do everything that can to keep it low to stay profitable.

I can see why they haven't moved to app-based rentals. It's hard to fax handwritten sketches of your ID card via an app...

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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post #63

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Illicit signal jammers that plug into the 12v car socket seem readily available if you know where to look, no modifications necessary. [not condoning their use]

I hope the car rental companies augment their trackers to use cellular tower and WiFi access points for location. Then when they detect a jammer they can notify both the owners and the FCC.

The jammers are generally wideband and low power, so they can block GPS, cell, and WiFi all with one jammer with a range of 10 yards or so.
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