Just discovered the same message in the Tor browser, and it seems that NoScript got disabled. So people running Tor are a lot more vulnerable right now. Also, wow, the web has a ton of ads. I've been running uBlock origin so long I forgot how bad it had gotten :(
All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
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Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#202This is why users need to be in control of their own computers. Why can't I tell my copy of Firefox to ignore the certificate? Why can't I sign my own extensions? Mistakes happen, it's okay. But users should be empowered to work around them.
Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#203Looks like all extensions have been disabled for all Firefox users. I think this fail-closed behavior is more of a security issue than the one it is trying to solve. All of my security add-ons - Privacy Badger, NoScript, Decentraleyes, and many more were disabled. Even worse, it happened without notice to the user. One moment I was browsing the internet (just barely) secured by these add-ons, and the next moment, all…
If it failed open, anyone unlucky enough to update their extensions could end up having a malicious version installed. It also would have taken longer to notice.
Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think MrEldritch is referring not to Firefox's built-in password manager, but third-party password managers such as Bitwarden, KeePass, and LastPass. Those rely on add-ons for browser integration.
That's what I meant, yes. (I didn't even know that KeePass could be integrated with the browser, I've just been manually copy-pasting)
Example: https://subdavis.com/Tusk/
Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah "just" a cron job except the implementation changes several times a year. Somehow this automated process was more time-consuming than the previous, manual one.
Many cloud providers will make this process pretty much entirely automated. But let's say you don't want to do that: when is the last time the way you run caddy changed? Or the last time python-certbot-nginx changed?
Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
So did they conclude it wasn’t a security concern or did they conclude the security risk was worth the uptime?
I'm curious as well. My intuition would be that it's not a concern, since servers already keep their private keys stored locally in order to be able to communicate with clients anyway? Being able to update them doesn't really seem to make things any different. But I feel like I could be missing something/not have thought through it properly. (I imagine security implications can get more complicated if a different ser…
But now that you mention it, I wonder what's the opinion of security experts like tptacek on cert renewal automation.
Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#207Just discovered the same message in the Tor browser, and it seems that NoScript got disabled. So people running Tor are a lot more vulnerable right now. Also, wow, the web has a ton of ads. I've been running uBlock origin so long I forgot how bad it had gotten :(
Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why can't I tell my copy of Firefox to ignore the certificate? Why can't I sign my own extensions? The issue is that if you leave any sort of lever that reduces security, it will be abused by bad actors. This is why browsers are having ever decreasing ways to bypass security and have full access. It is annoying, but at the end of the day, protecting 99.999% of the users trumps what us power users want.
protecting 99.999% of the users It is horribly paternalistic to advocate for keeping users ignorant, unlearning, and --- dare I say it --- easily manipulated. I will refrain from mentioning again that infamous Franklin quote. I am frankly very fucking pissed off by this authoritarian walled-garden trend, and vehemently oppose anyone who helps this industry put the nooses around the necks of others as well as their ow…
If you want your freedom from reviewed extensions: fine, get an unbranded Firefox, or Developer edition, and you get that.
Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#209Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many cloud providers will make this process pretty much entirely automated. But let's say you don't want to do that: when is the last time the way you run caddy changed? Or the last time python-certbot-nginx changed?
This was a few years ago, so things may have changed by now. But as they say, once bitten twice shy, and the wisdom of "just cron it" doesn't work with highly experimental tools like LE was for what I estimate to be the majority of its lifetime.