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All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

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Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#32

First they force code signing on everyone without a way to disable it then they break it. This is an extreme level of incompetence I didn't expect from Mozilla. They'd better have the best post mortum ever, possibly with someone being fired.

> They'd better have the best post mortum ever, possibly with someone being fired. Arguably these two goals are incompatible. :)

People are generally not inclined to be truthful about their mistakes if they expect to be punished for them. Its how problems keep getting covered up until they become catastrophes.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#33

This is a goddamned disaster. I'm just thankful that I use an offline password manager, but even still ... I like FF, don't get me wrong, but this is going to absolutely fucking destroy user trust in Mozilla. This kind of incompetence, on a browser scale , is breathtaking.

I dunno. I’m a typical Firefox user, and I’d rather jump off a bridge than switch to a different browser because of a fuckup like this. People make mistakes, but Mozilla still stands for things that certain other browser vendors don’t, last time I checked.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#34
This is why users need to be in control of their own computers. Why can't I tell my copy of Firefox to ignore the certificate? Why can't I sign my own extensions?

Mistakes happen, it's okay. But users should be empowered to work around them.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#35
post #12

I’ll still keep using Firefox since I recognize the importance of browser diversity and the hazards of a Chrome monoculture (that and vertical tabs), but, yikes. Still, this type of oversight seems all too common even in large companies. I remember several cases from Fortune 500 companies in the past few years alone. What would be a good way to automate checking for them? Has anyone developed a tool designed specific…

That's a great question. I've never seen a bulletproof solution for organizational tasks that need to be done yearly. If someone's in charge... and both they and their manager happen to leave in the same year... and whatever system they had in place to remember (probably their personal calendars) is gone... and the manager's manager has 1,000 other things to remember... ...how does an organization ensure the task sti…

Just one : Emacs orgmode

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#36
post #2

Looks like all extensions have been disabled for all Firefox users. I think this fail-closed behavior is more of a security issue than the one it is trying to solve. All of my security add-ons - Privacy Badger, NoScript, Decentraleyes, and many more were disabled. Even worse, it happened without notice to the user. One moment I was browsing the internet (just barely) secured by these add-ons, and the next moment, all…

If it failed open, anyone unlucky enough to update their extensions could end up having a malicious version installed. It also would have taken longer to notice.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#37
I just ran into this. All my extensions were immediately turned off in the middle of a browsing session, from UI conveniences to important safeguards, with no apparent option to turn them back on again.

Warning about something that can't be verified is one thing, but automatically shutting things off -- particularly things that could affect security and privacy -- is a Windows 10 level of unacceptable interference.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#38
post #22
post #12

I’ll still keep using Firefox since I recognize the importance of browser diversity and the hazards of a Chrome monoculture (that and vertical tabs), but, yikes. Still, this type of oversight seems all too common even in large companies. I remember several cases from Fortune 500 companies in the past few years alone. What would be a good way to automate checking for them? Has anyone developed a tool designed specific…

Let's not forget multiple mobile networks across Europe went down on the same day last year because Ericsson(?) let a cert expire on some internal management system that had not been updated. SSL cert renewal is one of the great unsolved problems in computer science edit: not Europe, just UK and Japan apparently: https://www.zdnet.com/article/ericsson-expired-certificate-c...

There was also an issue last year where every single Oculus Rift was essentially bricked because they forgot to renew a cert (apparently, what with the chaos of the Rift launch and the Facebook acquisition between the cert issuance and expiration, they just kind of ... lost track).

It took like two days before there was any kind of fix available, and they couldn't even roll it out automatically because the expiration had also disabled the auto-updating.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#39
post #12

I’ll still keep using Firefox since I recognize the importance of browser diversity and the hazards of a Chrome monoculture (that and vertical tabs), but, yikes. Still, this type of oversight seems all too common even in large companies. I remember several cases from Fortune 500 companies in the past few years alone. What would be a good way to automate checking for them? Has anyone developed a tool designed specific…

Talking about vertical tabs, I was in the middle of studying for an upcoming exam, then when I alt-tabbed back into Firefox, all of my tabs are missing with that unsupported addon error. Fortunately refreshing Firefox gave me back normal tabs, at a cost of uninstalling all of my addons.

The problem is that Tree Style Tabs relies on userchrome.css edit to hide the tab bar, and when TST is forcibly removed there is no way to access the tabs, because that edited userchrome.css is still there. This is very disruptive. At least with the pre WebExtension addon TST itself hides the tab bar, so if TST is removed then the original tab bar comes back on automatically

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