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Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by recursive »

cirgue wrote: post #188
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #159

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Really? My only experience with Discover Weekly (and any other suggestion algorithms, i.e. radios, etc...) has been pretty terrible... It doesn't seem to suggest songs I like at all, and recently it seized upon one single song in one of my playlist and only plays covers of that song and the other songs in the album for my discover weekly for the past several weeks... I love Spotify, but I use Pandora sometimes _exclu…

I think part of the online music discovery problem is that there is zero social context for it. Using Spotify to discover new music is, at least for me, the media equivalent of eating in a restaurant alone. Sure it's doable, and it's even preferable sometimes, but you're still missing one of the core elements of the experience.

What's the normal social context for discovering music? I ask this as someone who has done 99%+ of my music discovery in the last 5 years privately.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by nzoschke »

jqbx_jason wrote: post #174
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? My only experience with Discover Weekly (and any other suggestion algorithms, i.e. radios, etc...) has been pretty terrible... It doesn't seem to suggest songs I like at all, and recently it seized upon one single song in one of my playlist and only plays covers of that song and the other songs in the album for my discover weekly for the past several weeks... I love Spotify, but I use Pandora sometimes _exclu…

I posted this earlier but it got buried: I had the same experience as you and built JQBX[1] to mix it up. It's kind of like Pandora (it's a lot like turntable.fm if you ever used that) but it's user generated so you tend to get more obscure / timely recommendations. [1] https://www.jqbx.fm

This app is simply amazing. Thank you!

Are you worried about any Spotify terms of service issues?

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by baby »

I’ve tried Spotify but I cannot upload my own library (lots of mashup, asian music, remix, etc... that Spotify doesn’t have), use it and retrieve it later if needed. I’ve been looking for a service to do that and I couldn’t really find anything except iTunes match. But iTunes match is not really the same as spotify. So I did this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ptV0sWO2tBT4c3G8aiB0...

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by longerthoughts »

dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

>My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - thanks jjgod) and go native.

IIRC they moved to Chromium to ensure decoupled releases and faster iteration (starting at ~9:35: https://vimeo.com/85490944).

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by neom »

jonknee wrote: post #189
neom wrote: post #144

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Morgen Stanley is doing the book collection prior to open, so it's almost underwritten. It will be subscribed, either way.

From the document... > because Morgan Stanley is not acting as an underwriter, it will not have engaged in a book building process, and as a result, it will not be able to provide input to the DMM that is based on or informed by that process

You're totally right, my bad. I read it as ".. as a financial advisor to be available to consult AS the designated market maker" - thanks for pointing that out. :)

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by yamaneko »

dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

I don't pirate music anymore for the same reason. However, I also don't listen to music as I used to. I usually use Spotify to listen to what I already know, not so much to find new stuff. Before, I used to dive in depth into an artist/band, starting from their greatest hits. Once I got the band vocabulary, I'd download the albums chronologically and listened to every track, sometimes more than once until I got familiar with it. Now I don't do it with as much scrutiny, which is interesting since Spotify has all albums very well organized and even the discovery playlist. It would be much easier and better.

Is IKEA effect at play? Without Spotify, I would only start another artist when I finished the current one. So, with Spotify it becomes an information management problem due to the large amount of albums available at a click. Or it could just be that my life has changed and I don't have a time slot dedicated to music anymore.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by et-al »

paulie_a wrote: post #181
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Your reference to fxp just made me incredibly nostalgic

Same here, but I didn't know what FXP was. Initially thought it was another release group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_eXchange_Protocol

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by zouhair »

dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

I never could get used to their awful client. Coming from Foobar2000, I just couldn't.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by JauntyHatAngle »

jasondemeuse wrote: post #195
peapicker wrote: post #162

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I believe playlists don't count as library (please correct me if I'm wrong) - so you can effectively surpass the 10,000 as a limit by adding songs to playlists instead of the library. I've actually changed my model primarily around playlists and don't actually use the library feature of spotify hardly at all.

I've been a Spotify premium user for years now and have never used my Library, but have a ton of playlists organized and nested into different genre/mood/etc directories. I'm sure there's a good reason why people want to use their Library instead and why the "playlist" way is inefficient since I've seen a lot of users annoyed with the limit, but anecdotally I've never had a problem with the playlist-first way of usin…

I use spotify in a lazy way, but essentially if I like a song, I press the check mark. If I'm doing my normal listening I just have all of my songs that are in my library on shuffle.

I imagine if I hit the 10K limit this inability to use shuffle on ALL of my tracks at once would annoy me.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by awalton »

tomhschmidt wrote: post #85
pyronite wrote: post #66

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I was a Spotify lifer until I butted up against their 10,000 song limit. [1] Now, I'm using Google Play Music. There's no doubt in my mind that everything else outside of this limit is better on Spotify. Please, Spotify, fix this! Let me help inflate your valuation! 1. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Accounts/Library-Song-Limit...

+1. Ability to upload music on Google Play Music is also keeping me from switching to Spotify. I have a lot of tracks that simply aren't in the Spotify catalog. If they add that, I'd switch tomorrow.

Yeah this might seriously make me considering switching from my current half-baked solution of GPM and Pandora, but I still feel discovery is better on Pandora (and that's saying a lot because Pandora leaves a _lot_ to be desired).
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