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Not with Brexit overshadowing everything.
Perhaps they could oppose that too... Would be an interesting legal position, now article 50 has been notified.
UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election
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You can't use the Express as a source, it's not a creditable newspaper and has it's own agenda here.
Well, Reuters also had an article on the meeting and the goals, if you prefer that source: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-diplomacy-id...
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There's quite a lot to suggest that a lot of the Leave vote doesn't turn out for GEs. And some of it has died too
The conservatives could have real trouble getting out the vote if people think it a foregone conclusion. Will people really fear a Corbyn victory enough to turn out?
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#204Don't rule out the very real possibility that this is about heading off the unprecedented police investigation that could lead to twenty Conservative MPs (larger than their working majority) being sent to prison. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/mar/23/conservative-el...
What this will do is remove any risk of the tainted elections being voided, resulting in a string of difficult by-elections.
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From the Guardian: 30m ago 11:44 Corbyn confirms Labour will vote for early election Jeremy Corbyn has put out this statement about Theresa May’s announcement. I welcome the prime minister’s decision to give the British people the chance to vote for a government that will put the interests of the majority first. Labour will be offering the country an effective alternative to a government that has failed to rebuild th…
> Labour has set out policies that offer a clear and credible choice for the country Has it?? Where exactly? I've not heard a thing from Labour for months
If a political party announces policies and the press don't report it, did it actually happen.
The information is out there. Unfortunately with our media the way it is, you have to go looking for it.
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#206Actually this is just good business for the Tories, and I've long expected it. The opposition is in disarray under Corbyn, and our prime minister has never won an election. This is as easy a victory as Theresa May will ever be able to bank on, and legitimises her leadership in the eyes of a large section of the public. She can also claim (maybe rightly so) that she has the undisputed majority support of the public fo…
It's also an incredibly cynical ploy that'll probably damage belief in democracy more than anything. It's not a vote on whether Brexit happens because she called it after she'd already irrevocably started the countdown on that by triggering Article 50. It's not a vote on how Brexit happens because, as far as I can tell, she's consistently refused to be specific about that and no real negotiation with the EU has happe…
The only problem I see with this is that the election is only 6 weeks away, too little for any credible new stances to form. Beneficial for her & Tories, but undemocratic and bad for the country.
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who's "we"? I'd be pretty happy about an election legitimising May's leadership. If labour wants to become more competitive they should stop nominating far-left leaders.
Labour's problem is they are basically two parties, the metropolitan socialists (remain) and working classes (leave). I doubt any leader would be able to fight this upcoming general election - it's a huge mess for them.
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A lot of that grass roots support is young & as a result has much less weight for voting, unfortunately.
Unless older people's votes get counted twice, how does the young have less weight for voting? As an outsider, the news that got to me was that older people simply showed up to vote (and others didn't).
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who's "we"? I'd be pretty happy about an election legitimising May's leadership. If labour wants to become more competitive they should stop nominating far-left leaders.
Labour's problem is they are basically two parties, the metropolitan socialists (remain) and working classes (leave). I doubt any leader would be able to fight this upcoming general election - it's a huge mess for them.
There's stronger signs of a generational split, and a rural/city split than a simple rich poor split and of course each area has substantial numbers of voters who think differently. Lots of rich people voted for Brexit, lots of people who are not nationalists voted for Brexit lots of people who are not particularly racist voted for Brexit, etc. The reasons are varied. I disagree with Brexit and think it will end in disaster (esp. for labour as you point out), but the view above is unduly reductive.
Unfortunately such a nuanced reality doesn't fit into a sound bite and people prefer to neatly put their opponents in a reductive box, so here we are talking about cities vs countryside and rich vs poor.
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The Labour Party establishment have tried to dethrone Corbyn before and failed. He's an odd case. He commands a lot of influence among Labour members and to some extent the unions (who have significant ties to and influence on the Labour Party here). This makes him more-or-less untouchable as party leader. However, he's loathed by most of the party's current MPs, who are politicians and know he's going to be a liabil…
I was a Corbyn supporter, on the basis that we'd had too many Labour leaders who went against the wishes of the members and supported Tory policy. Then on Brexit, he went against the wishes of the members and supported Tory policy. Needless to say I'm no longer a supporter. Of course, it's easy to forget that all the other leadership candidates and challengers would have done the same. I'd love to see the scenario in…
This is slightly simplistic, since the Tory party was split on the issue of Brexit.