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Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by aidenn0 »

ronjouch wrote: post #8
NotSteve wrote: post #3

Any hope of playing Overwatch with this?

AppDB is the canonical resource for this kind of question: https://appdb.winehq.org/ -> Returns https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicatio... , which says it's currently classified "Garbage" as of 2.0-rc2.

In my experience, AppDB is mostly useless for answering this kind of question. It's right maybe 30-40% of the time with the rest being one of:

1) Says it doesn't work when it works fine on default settings

2) Says it works and I spend hours and hours messing with settings trying to get it to work before giving up.

3) Only reports a version of my application that is so out of date that I don't care.

Granted I mostly use applications, not games, so perhaps it's better with games.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by squarefoot »

broodbucket wrote: post #172
bigbugbag wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

bitwig has a native linux version.

I'd imagine the main issue is VSTs.

Some VSTs work flawlessly, others can be problematic and others do not work at all. You need to check them one by one, but surely a lot of them work. (edit): VSTs incompatibility doesn't just affect WINE but Windows itself from version to version. If you take a look at Reaper (reaper.fm), it has some options to run VSTs in various compatibility modes. This paired with WINE's ability to fake a different Windows version "emulation" should help with more problematic VSTs.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by wtallis »

avisser wrote: post #107
teach wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VMWare is an emulator. Wine is not an emulator.

To be pedantic, VMWare is a virtual machine. It sure as hell doesn't emulate your x86 CPU.

VMWare has historically used emulation for kernel/privileged code when the host CPU doesn't allow for direct virtualization. VMWare also emulates peripheral hardware. Wine doesn't emulate any hardware.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by farjar »

mark-r wrote: post #162
nix0n wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Linux root is more insulated if your application is in a VM, but running other Windows services broadens the attack surface.

Any problems running Linux in a VM then Wine within that?

Kind of negates the purpose of even using wine. If your running a windows machine to run a Linux VM then you might as well install straight to Windows and not deal with the underpowered VM

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by eosrei »

artursapek wrote: post #38
viraptor wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on the game. Some run better on Windows, some on Wine. You need to check for specific titles with this kind of question. I've seen multiple sources claiming that CoD2 and WoW run with better FPS on Wine for example.

Wow, I never would have thought they could run better. I'm thinking of old titles, AoE II, Starcraft, etc. They have good ratings but I'm just wondering if it would be anywhere near as bad as when I used to run VMWare on my old Mac.

WoW running on Windows@~28fps and Linux@~57fps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQFBK1yNIxE

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by ant6n »

dboreham wrote: post #171

I still recall a fresh intern arriving in my office grinning and breathless one day, talking about Wine. We discussed it a little and I told him "it'll take a while before it achieves usable compatibility with major Windows applications". This was in 1993.

It probably achieved compatibility with major Windows applications from 1993 some time ago.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by ardivekar »

tbrock wrote: post #176
bandrami wrote: post #11

Cool. I have to admit I haven't thought about Wine in a while because I can't think of any software I use that doesn't have a Linux version. What are people's use-cases nowadays?

Microsoft Office. /thread

Really, check out WPS Office on both Linux and Windows. It's a phenomenal MS-Office clone, 100x better than both OpenOffice and LibreOffice (because it actually acknowledges that MS-Office is a good piece of software).

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by apatters »

amclennon wrote: post #44
deepuj wrote: post #37

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I havent used office in a many years now.. but I thought MS Office is now an online offering similar to Google Docs?

There's a "light" version available online, but you must be thinking about Office 365. Although the core product is still desktop based, they've been shifting to an optional subscription model where you pay $9/month or so for perpetual updates and 1tb of storage.

This model is great for me. It's very rare that I need to view or edit a document in an Office application but it does happen occasionally when the formatting is complex or something. Just install Office in a VM, pay $9 for 1 month of access, and unsub again when I'm done!
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