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With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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So why aren't we complaining about this industry practice? It's purely focused on MS.

We have choices outside of the win32 bubble - https://twitter.com/Arubin/status/27808662429

I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread of conversation.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Over the past year I've noticed a lot of things mysteriously getting installed, things moving around, etc. I don't mind automatic updates so long as there's a separation from the new features and bug fixes. There should be a base core of apps that are necessary and a set of opt-in add-on features. It's time to move to Linux on laptop/desktop/tablet I think. While I love my surface pro 3 and the Windows 10 experience…

On the flip side, I run Ubuntu on my htpc, and have for several years now... there have been a couple times where the updates broke audio, and the fix took on average 2 days, though I can imagine some people having worse experiences... Getting an MCE remote (arguably the most common PC remote type) working with Kodi (formerly xbmc and very popular full screen media player) took some cumbersome steps. On average one a…

I've been running Linux on all of my home machines for many years, including an HTPC, and I've yet to have an update break anything.

Should we trust your anecdote, because it has more words, or mine, because it mentions more than one computer?

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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I have lost work on Windows 10 because it doesnt seem possible to not have it restart after an update. This behavior being a default from the Windows "Professional Edition" boggles my mind.

The automatic update restarts are the worst. Followed guide here and have not come into work with a restarted computer since (used Method 3): http://www.redmondpie.com/disable-turn-off-automatic-updates...

Option 1 on that link stops updates from running on their own, but once you update you are forced to reboot. Also I had problems with that solution causing stalling forever on "Installing updates 0%".

Option 2 is for hiding specific updates, like broken drivers. Doesn't really apply.

Option 3 again will stop updates from installing in the first place, but will not stop reboots once they're installed. Windows 10 completely ignores the "No auto-restart with logged on users" policy from that same group.

The only way I have found to stop my computer from rebooting after installing an update is #2 in the link below. This works, 100%.

https://superuser.com/questions/973009/conclusively-stop-wak...

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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OneDrive comes back to the File Explorer after each Windows 10 big update, even if you disable its icon with the registry editor. The same happens to the library folders (Videos, Pictures etc.).

Yes, many customizations are lost with the "big" updates, including disabling telemetry and cortana as well as tons of settings. That's because they aren't _really_ updates; they are complete OS installs. Your old windows directory is literally renamed to windows.OLD.

This is my largest complaint with Windows 10. In particular, it resets file associations on every major patch. Supposedly this is because applications are no longer supposed to set associations themselves, the user is supposed to do it individually for a file of each type through the Windows interface, and Win10 is "fixing broken associations".

There's a regedit fix here that worked for me.

http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/windows-10-resetting-file-...

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Does anyone know what MS does with this data? Is it just for ads?

It's for quality and personalization, not for ads. This is Terry Myerson's blog explanation of data usage. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/09/28/priva...

That assumes you believe Microsoft, that they are not deliberately lying to their customers. Not plausible? Microsoft claimed Skype has end-to-end encryption, too.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/newly-published-n...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-...

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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> There is probably a registry value you can change to do so though. Thanks, but with "probably" I sense that I'm about to get into what I call "mud wrestling" or hours or days of just throwing wild guesses against a wall to see if any appear to stick. I've only got 365 days a year, and I've given away far too many of them to such mud wrestling. GOD knows I do NOT want to do more of that. For physical things, say, an…

Why don't you just put a firewall between the machine you want to stay untouched and the Internet. Block all outgoing connection attempts to Microsoft servers. "Firewall block windows update" seems to return relevant results. That seems like a good "big hammer" sort of solution to me.

it's pretty hard to do this these days with a dumb firewall, given CDNs

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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I see so many people stuck in the gaming situation and there are no practical solutions, the only way out involves an entire industry changing direction together. I'd like to see a video card manufacturer (probably AMD since they seem to be the underdog in a 2 dog fight) start a Linux-first campaign, even if it's only for select cards.

AMD already is making a good open source driver for Linux, and both AMD and nVidia has been making proprietary drivers for Linux for a while. Also AMD seemly releases some "Pro" features for workstation on Linux first. The problem of Linux gaming is not the graphics drivers, in fact this part has been working "ok" for a while now. The problem with Linux gaming is: 1. Audio is still a mess, the fastest audio library s…

The only way this is going to work, is if some company with a lot invested in the gaming ecosystem (e.g. Valve) spends some of those billions of dollars to make a ground up OS from the Linux kernel, similar to Android.

The ONLY usable Linux "distros" at the moment are hobbyist projects. This includes Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, etc. etc.

No serious company or individual that relies on a predictable and reliable user experience is going to use any of the modern flavors of Linux. Someone has to spend the money to do this right, and do it right once and for all.

Obviously, Stallman was right and every closed source OS is going the way of 1984 by making the users the product and gathering every single keystroke and mouse click in order to monetize you. As a convenient side effect, they are creating a perfect turn-key totalitarian system that could be used to devastating effect with the necessary political will.

Greed is good? Apparently it isn't good enough, because Gabe Newel would rather hoard his billions than spend on critical infrastructure for his company's future.

A Linux OS needs to be built from the kernel by professional and well paid developers who don't fork every single repo if they don't like tab spacing.

Democracy doesn't work in engineering, it doesn't work in business, and it probably doesn't work in politics. Linux works because Linus is a "benevolent" dictator. That's why the kernel is such a marvel of engineering. Because he oversees every commit. The same needs to happen downstream.

Here's to dreams of the Linux desktop in 2050!

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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By default, Windows 10 sends an unprecedented amount of usage data back to Microsoft... location data, text input, voice input, touch input, webpages you visit, and telemetry data regarding your general usage of your computer, including which programs you run and for how long. Unprecedented for Microsoft or everyone? This is inline with what Google collects on Android. ...the fact remains that many users would much p…

>But most people probably want updates and the data necessary to determine which updates you've got installed on your computer are considered telemetry data by Microsoft and that information is essential in order to determine which updates are applicable or available

I have telemetry completely disabled and Win10 updates work fine. This is completely false. It is not required for normal operation.

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