Ashley Madison Database (not parsed): http://pastebin.com/9t6DLKm3
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The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
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Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree, though one could argue that what AM is doing is an explicit attempt to damage the basic building block of society, i.e. family. So this becomes somewhat a matter of public interest then.
one could argue that what AM is doing is an explicit attempt to damage the basic building block of society Sure, but one could also argue the same about per-marital sex, divorce and homosexuals.
Which conservative Christians do.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well that's the thing, the SOs now can find out. Yeah as a cheater one would get the uncomfortable feeling from everyone else possibly knowing that too, alas. Comes with the territory.
Or an SO who has an agreement with their spouse to let them quietly cheat has to now deal with strangers and friends alike "knowing" that the spouse sleeps around. Or person A is in a sexless but loving marriage with person B. They have kids, and don't want to get divorced because they love each other, but person B is just done with sex. Is it worse for person A to cheat on person B than it is for the two to get divo…
Look, I can make a bunch of similar sad puppy stories for the other side of coin as well. People holding it "for the kids" but who wouldn't really stay in case of infidelity. Unhappy people with orthodox religious beliefs who would alas divorce in case of adultery. People desperately trying to fix the relationship and improve themselves not realizing their partner is invested elsewhere and all their effort is wasted.
I sympathize with couples who have a consensual kink however and are now caught in the middle of it. Though I doubt it's anywhere near a major portion of the userbase, they are very unfortunate collateral here. Kind of U.S. govt informers who were revealed by Assange's cablegate (which majority here is positive about), but sans grave threat to their life.
I don't have sympathy for people who make their SOs an unconsenting part of three-way sexual relationship, and yes they are never an excuse short. All people are positive about their self image, and rationalizations of abhorrent actions are a natural consequence.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not really a choice. It's "the way things are supposed to be". The argument is not unrelated though, because it's relative the nature of our society. And that nature is what makes this hack so juicy to people that would have otherwise have ignored that as they ignored many other data leaks in the past. Freedom of choice is important, but you're not really free to choose polygamy when education and morals are sti…
> It's not really a choice. Just like homosexuality "was not a choice" a mere few years ago: yet people did choose to be open about their homosexuality and did choose to fight for their rights as homosexuals. Look where we are today: the American courts now lawfully recognize that choice in marriage. > archaic religious beliefs So far as advanced societies go, believing in higher power(s) is a choice. It is certainly…
> So far as advanced societies go, believing in higher power(s) is a choice.
Is it? That must be the reason why all recent U.S. Presidents were all fervent atheists...
Is it a choice in a society where swearing on a religious tome is still considered a rational way to induce people to tell the truth in court? I know that's just theater (otherwise perjury would not be a felony). Still, I think it's a telling detail of how far you would go without believing in something in contemporary American society.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
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I'd like to know this too. I remember seeing a talk by Facebook on Youtube by their security team that they will download these datasets to see if Facebook users have used the same passwords so that they can protect accounts. It would be unfortunate if this was less than legal.
How is Facebook able to do this if the passwords are hashed in a different manner? Are they storing passwords in plain text?
They could check when you log in, I suppose.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
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> It's not really a choice. Just like homosexuality "was not a choice" a mere few years ago: yet people did choose to be open about their homosexuality and did choose to fight for their rights as homosexuals. Look where we are today: the American courts now lawfully recognize that choice in marriage. > archaic religious beliefs So far as advanced societies go, believing in higher power(s) is a choice. It is certainly…
> So far as advanced societies go, believing in higher power(s) is a choice. Is it? That must be the reason why all recent U.S. Presidents were all fervent atheists... Is it a choice in a society where swearing on a religious tome is still considered a rational way to induce people to tell the truth in court? I know that's just theater (otherwise perjury would not be a felony). Still, I think it's a telling detail of…
We've gone from a data breach, to swearing on a Bible in courts. It's an interesting discussion but this is not the place to have it.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
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> Just like polygamy is a choice That's not much of a choice though. In several places you can go to jail for it. Or it is choice in the same way that being a criminal is a choice.
Yeah, I should have prefaced that whole argument with "advanced societies." It's very hard to argue these points when you have e.g. the middle east getting in the way of rational and humane thought processes. In places like that you really have no choice or autonomy and arguments such as my original one simply hold no ground.
The middle east was an advanced society up until recently, definitely better off than Europe & co was during the middle ages in terms of scientific and mathematics and whatnot. Can we just call it "different"?
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I should have prefaced that whole argument with "advanced societies." It's very hard to argue these points when you have e.g. the middle east getting in the way of rational and humane thought processes. In places like that you really have no choice or autonomy and arguments such as my original one simply hold no ground.
The middle east was an advanced society up until recently, definitely better off than Europe & co was during the middle ages in terms of scientific and mathematics and whatnot. Can we just call it "different"?
We're veering off-topic here. Suffice to say: I have my reasons, and they aren't just about a difference.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Marriages are not just moral issues, they're also contracts between people themselves and between the couples and the government. They come with privileges and tax breaks and social status, and all of it is built upon assumption that marriages are mostly permanent. AM is explicitly attempting to attack that.
I think this is not such a big issue, if it was divorce would be illegal. If anything I would argue the problem lies then on how the estate sees marriage, not the other way around. The agreement I have with my wife is between us, no one needs to judge what we do with our private lives.
I think this is a thing that is actually changing in the recent decades. It used to be that marriages were more about connecting families, securing deals and even state issues (and so it still is in some parts of the world). Nowadays in Western society, marriages tend to be more about two people and their decision. But we're not 100% in the latter model yet, there's lot of social and legal baggage around the older ways. Divorces are not illegal, but they're still socially stigmatized.
The point is, we have to deal with how things are actually now, and not only with how they may/should be.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Marriages are not just moral issues, they're also contracts between people themselves and between the couples and the government. They come with privileges and tax breaks and social status, and all of it is built upon assumption that marriages are mostly permanent. AM is explicitly attempting to attack that.
Who are you to judge how people live and should their lifes? How dull. There are so many different family structures — incl. open relationships. A family's structure and agreements is not public, nor should they be. Unless said family choose to disclose that fact by their own volition.
I'm not judging. People may live however they want. Institution of marriage is one of the choices, that is established in the society and carries with it some particular set of features. In particular, joining in marriage is somewhat public, even if it's much less public than it used to be. Also marriage comes with explicit (even if not legally binding) expectation you don't cheat. If you don't like those aspects, don't marry; no one is telling you have to, open relationships are fine too.