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I'll sue you if you use my common-sense JavaScript tests

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Re: I'll sue you if you use my common-sense JavaScript tests

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Post by yannis »

jblochjohnson wrote: post #8
babyboy808 wrote: post #6

Seems like this David Mark is mad at the world: http://sixrevisions.com/javascript/promising_javascript_fram... http://sixrevisions.com/javascript/promising_javascript_fram... http://stackoverflow.com/users/88658/david-mark http://help.wugnet.com/bravenet/webmaster/Great-Examples-cod...

Thanks for digging these up. His tone and his arguments are two different things; I find his tone hard to take, but can any JS coders weigh in on his arguments?

One of his quotes 'Every time a new browser version is released, anything built on them has to be re-tested due to an inexplicable reliance on the user agent string'.

Not really most libraries use feature testing, especially jQuery and John advocates feature testing in quite a few of his writings.

Re: I'll sue you if you use my common-sense JavaScript tests

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Post by tibbon »

julio_the_squid wrote: post #15

David Mark is an anti-jQuery crusader. He is known for speaking ill of people who use the library as well as the developers (John Resig in particular). He insists that jQuery is responsible for all of the sites across the internet that have JavaScript errors. See http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7vul9/some_tech... http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8ndyw/jquerys_l...

What I don't understand is why he doesn't work to help jQuery to be better then and contribute a bit? If its causing errors and bugs then certainly he could help some instead of complaining?

Resig +1 Mark -1

Re: I'll sue you if you use my common-sense JavaScript tests

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Post by nostrademons »

ubernostrum wrote: post #19
nzmsv wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow! After reading these, and the replies, I definitely agree with John Resig about that newsgroup: don't read. Or risk losing your hope for humanity.

And yet I can't help drawing a parallel: comp.lang.lisp was famously full of the hateful spewing of an intolerant contributor, and for that both the group and the contributor (Erik Naggum) were basically worshipped by a non-trivial community. Why did Lisp produce that outcome, while JavaScript produces this?

It's basically the same. comp.lang.lisp and Erik Naggum may've been worshipped by a non-trivial community, but it was still a small community. The rest of us still hated it.

I'm sure there're people out there that enjoy comp.lang.javascript too.

Re: I'll sue you if you use my common-sense JavaScript tests

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Post by chrischen »

tibbon wrote: post #23
julio_the_squid wrote: post #15

David Mark is an anti-jQuery crusader. He is known for speaking ill of people who use the library as well as the developers (John Resig in particular). He insists that jQuery is responsible for all of the sites across the internet that have JavaScript errors. See http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7vul9/some_tech... http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8ndyw/jquerys_l...

What I don't understand is why he doesn't work to help jQuery to be better then and contribute a bit? If its causing errors and bugs then certainly he could help some instead of complaining? Resig +1 Mark -1

Ego?

Re: I'll sue you if you use my common-sense JavaScript tests

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Post by chrischen »

furtivefelon wrote: post #20

I think this is "his" javascript library (can't find his name mentioned anywhere though): http://www.cinsoft.net/mylib.html

It was in his stackoverflow profile right? So I guess it's a safe bet that it's his. Plus the description sounds like him.

Re: I'll sue you if you use my common-sense JavaScript tests

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Post by sh1mmer »

There is always some guy, I've never heard of, being an asshole on any given topic on the Internet. I'm sorry that he's picking on John/jQuery but it's really not that surprising.

I think John is being pretty pragmatic though just to exorcise the whole deal and attempt to enforce a clean room environment for the affected code branches.

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