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Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by cansync1 »

joshrotenberg wrote: post #19
wyc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 50% is untrue and students fault This statement does little to make me feel any better about Coding House.

Should be more like "We take 100% responsibility for the issues and plan to do something about it."

Fair enough.

We take 100% responsibility for taking a student in our first cohort over 1 year ago; who was not prepared, did not do the work in or after the program.

We have learned from our mistake.

We now have extensive per work, coding challenges (gates on all phases) and accept only 3.16% of the students that apply.

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by markrote »

cansync1 wrote: post #21
joshrotenberg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should be more like "We take 100% responsibility for the issues and plan to do something about it."

Fair enough. We take 100% responsibility for taking a student in our first cohort over 1 year ago; who was not prepared, did not do the work in or after the program. We have learned from our mistake. We now have extensive per work, coding challenges (gates on all phases) and accept only 3.16% of the students that apply.

Wow, I think that response was even worse. Blaming the student even more.

PS: Hi Josh!

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by huac »

danso wrote: post #13
sleazebreeze wrote: post #10

EDIT: Turns out this Quora review is written by a different Jose who attended Coding House. My bad! Was this review by Jose written under duress or legally compelled somehow? http://www.quora.com/Reviews-of-Coding-House It is written by the OP, but it is quite positive and recommends the experience from Coding House. It was written in April 2015. The article was from September 2014. Something is off here...

I'm assuming two different Joses? edit: Keep reading that Quora thread. In one of the hidden responses (hidden because it really isn't a review), it mentions the source of the OP, which has apparently been removed since its original posting: http://joselcontreras.com/about-coding-house/

Different Jose's.

Looks like the OP was removed under legal threat (read the end of the PDF), but not before somebody saved it to their Google drive.

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by cansync1 »

dustincoates wrote: post #7
vinceguidry wrote: post #5

I'm trying to figure out what the relevant criteria should be for the decision of whether to go to a code school or not. I have a friend that sees how hot the market for talent is and wants to get in on it. I showed him mhartl's Rails tutorial but he's too busy to really dig in and when he does ends up burning a lot of time spinning his wheels. I suggested two Atlanta-area code schools, both of whom have been around…

"So you should know you're signing up for sub-standard instruction even before you start looking for one... your instructor is pretty much guaranteed to be of the amateur-hobbyist variety" I don't think this is a fair assessment, especially at the more established code schools. For one, the instructors are probably making more than you think they are, so the difference between what they could get for a full-time gig…

Somewhat agreed:

(oh btw a disclaimer at the bottom of a post like oh I may be biased or still work there but....)

I am a founder at Coding House.

We have the instructor (co founder) who wrote the RoR curriculum for General Assembly 3.5 years ago (that they still uses to date) and was there lead instructor. He also wrote the curriculum for Nashville Software School, and Flat Iron School. That they all still uses!

There is not an instructor out there that has more experiences.

http://codinghouse.co/#!team?team=chyld-medford

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by dragonwriter »

cansync1 wrote: post #14

Hi All, I am one of the founders at Coding House. Let me provide some insight on the post from last year. 1) 50% of the the post is true and my fault 2) 50% is untrue and students fault 3) It was our very first cohort and we had a lot to learn about what worked and did not work 4) The student has been refunded 5) We wanted to make it like a real boot camp and that was to hard on some of the students 6) We have fantas…

> 1) 50% of the the post is true and my fault

> 2) 50% is untrue and students fault

In each case, which 50% do you see in that category, and what have you done/are you doing about the first 50%.

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by dragonwriter »

hikz wrote: post #17
cansync1 wrote: post #14

Hi All, I am one of the founders at Coding House. Let me provide some insight on the post from last year. 1) 50% of the the post is true and my fault 2) 50% is untrue and students fault 3) It was our very first cohort and we had a lot to learn about what worked and did not work 4) The student has been refunded 5) We wanted to make it like a real boot camp and that was to hard on some of the students 6) We have fantas…

Why do you and other coding bootcamps pretend to be anything else than intensive web development courses? Another coding bootcamp called "Hack Reactor" is claiming to be "The CS degree for the 21st century" on the front page and on another page they write "Become a Software Engineer".

> Why do you and other coding bootcamps pretend to be anything else than intensive web development courses?

Because that's how they justify the prices they are charging?

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by cansync1 »

xeromal wrote: post #2

HOLY. SHIT. I am sorry. :( 90% of these coding schools need to go. I thought my private school was bad. Also, there are plenty of free sources for education. Definitely enough to get you started building your own applications. Hell, ever pluralsight is a better bargain.

I am a founder at Coding House.

Wrong.

- Maybe the bottom 20% should go and that is natural selection.

- The is a huge shortage of devs.

- Most colleges are not doing a good job creating dev's (their are about 100 who do).

- You can learn everything we teach on your own for free (near free).

- btw Plursight is great if you are a JR Dev not if you don't know shit.

- Boot camps expedite the process by 4x to 12x the amount of time it would take.

- You will not become an expert or an intermediate dev at any boot camp. You will still be green.

- In a boot camp you will learn between 2-4% of what you need to know about coding.

- You will earn the rest over 20-30 years.

- Thus we focus on teaching people how to be self relent. So the can pick up a new language, framework, how to FIX bugs, TDD, merging, working in groups. The process that one can apply to most anything they need to do down the road.

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by Yhippa »

cansync1 wrote: post #21
joshrotenberg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should be more like "We take 100% responsibility for the issues and plan to do something about it."

Fair enough. We take 100% responsibility for taking a student in our first cohort over 1 year ago; who was not prepared, did not do the work in or after the program. We have learned from our mistake. We now have extensive per work, coding challenges (gates on all phases) and accept only 3.16% of the students that apply.

Why not round it down to an even 3.14% and keep it at Pi?

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by brookside »

cansync1 wrote: post #14

Hi All, I am one of the founders at Coding House. Let me provide some insight on the post from last year. 1) 50% of the the post is true and my fault 2) 50% is untrue and students fault 3) It was our very first cohort and we had a lot to learn about what worked and did not work 4) The student has been refunded 5) We wanted to make it like a real boot camp and that was to hard on some of the students 6) We have fantas…

(Comment does not apply if English is your second language.)

Your spelling, grammar, and punctuation are terrible considering this thread will probably end your viability as a business.

Re: About Coding House (2014)

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Post by amorphid »

rpcope1 wrote: post #3
xeromal wrote: post #2

HOLY. SHIT. I am sorry. :( 90% of these coding schools need to go. I thought my private school was bad. Also, there are plenty of free sources for education. Definitely enough to get you started building your own applications. Hell, ever pluralsight is a better bargain.

Agreed. I am incredibly dubious that "bootcamps" have any value whatsoever in any case, except maybe for introducing practicing developers to new technologies. I know tech is the hot place to be any more, but man it's amazing the number of charlatans that have started to show up surrounding "hot technology."

I'm a full stack Rails developer now, and attended an online bootcamp called Tealeaf Academy. I liked it a lot because the guys who run it understand development pretty well, and they were accessible to answer questions as I had them. They made no promises about my career prospects after attending the course, charged a fair price. In my mind, the 4 month program was closer to a supercharged college course, not an overhyped bootcamp.
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