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Fungus-treated Violin Outdoes Stradivarius

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Re: Fungus-treated Violin Outdoes Stradivarius

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still think it's interesting that, even though the violinist knew which violin he was playing, the audience liked him playing the Opus 58 violin better than playing his own Stradivarius, which he could have been subconsciously influenced to play better because of its familiarity.

He could have been subconsciously influenced to play the Opus because of its novelty.

Unlikely. Most violinists play their own instrument far and away better than other instruments.

(I come from a family of professional violinists, and very nearly became one myself, so I am at least tangentially qualified to comment on this.)

The difference between one violin and another is very noticeable. The shape of the bridge influences the distance between the strings and the height of the strings over the fingerboard. Violins have idiosyncratic resonances, a very loose sizing standard (my Vuillaume feels much larger than my sister's Mermillot), differing shapes (both subtle and obvious---see "guitar-shaped" Strads, for example), and varied neck angles and thicknesses, to name just a few off the top of my head.

Beyond that, professional violinists practice and play a lot---hours each day. To say that he would be more familiar with his own instrument is a drastic understatement.

On the other hand, none of this is proof that somehow the Opus 58 is better or worse. There are many superb-sounding instruments that are nevertheless not as celebrated or as highly regarded as the Strads and their ilk, and the reasons have little to do with their tonal quality. For example, who wouldn't want to play on the same instrument once owned and played by Paganini?

For that matter, there are many old makers whose violins are considered at or near par with the Strad, e.g., Andrea Amati and Guarneri del Gesu. These instruments share with the Strad a rich back story that no modern instrument, no matter how superb a specimen, can have. In other words, they're not just great instruments, they're literally some of the centerpieces of musical history.

Re: Fungus-treated Violin Outdoes Stradivarius

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There were 5 violins, 2 of which were fungus violins, one of those in particular received a staggering 60% of the votes. Not sure what the best conclusion to draw is but it's certainly believable that one day you'll be able to get a cheap violin with incredible tone quality.

I assure that you that short of molecular self-assemblers, these fungus treated violins are not going to be cheap. They will cost well above the average for a new violin, but much, much less than a violin from a classic master.

Demand will probably lower the cost of price due to competition and the related support of research. While demand for cheap violins might be low, the demand for cheap "x made better by fungus" will probably be pretty high, and violins will peripherally benefit.

Re: Fungus-treated Violin Outdoes Stradivarius

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The prices of the Stradivarius violins are as reasonable as the price of Van Goghs and vintage wines. The truth is, Joshua Bell playing a swinette would sound better than me on a Stradivarius.

Since you mentioned Joshua Bell, I'd like to remind people of the previously posted on News.YC Pulitzer-award winning article, "Pearls before Breakfast"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04...

Re: Fungus-treated Violin Outdoes Stradivarius

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were 5 violins, 2 of which were fungus violins, one of those in particular received a staggering 60% of the votes. Not sure what the best conclusion to draw is but it's certainly believable that one day you'll be able to get a cheap violin with incredible tone quality.

I assure that you that short of molecular self-assemblers, these fungus treated violins are not going to be cheap. They will cost well above the average for a new violin, but much, much less than a violin from a classic master.

True, but no-one is making Stradivariuses these days.

Re: Fungus-treated Violin Outdoes Stradivarius

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assure that you that short of molecular self-assemblers, these fungus treated violins are not going to be cheap. They will cost well above the average for a new violin, but much, much less than a violin from a classic master.

True, but no-one is making Stradivariuses these days.

Stradivarii ? :)

Re: Fungus-treated Violin Outdoes Stradivarius

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This seems quite the same as saying that listening to a CD is exactly the same as listening to an old LP.

No, it's not. Some humans (not many, though) can tell the difference; music simply can't be reduced to bits (without loosing some very, very, very fine information, not accessible to every instance of Ear on Planet Earth).

In this case: I would swear that there are ears able to tell the difference...

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