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Getting to work on diversity at Google

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Re: Getting to work on diversity at Google

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I don't understand why companies are obsessed with diversity just for the sake of it. Edit: I am mexican, and I personally wouldn't like to be hired for diversity reasons, I would prefer to be hired on my abilities.

I agree. I am a Russian Jew and I never needed or wanted to be hired based on diversity needs.

Re: Getting to work on diversity at Google

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It's {{current_year}} and people are still asking, "why does diversity matter?" Diversity matters for a lot of reasons. Perhaps most importantly, demographic diversity is strongly correlated with diversity in points of view. You want the people building your products to come from many walks of life. Remember how Google+ had significant uptake in the rich white tech dude demographic? Not a coincidence. If you want the…

Thank you for typing that all out. I agree completely. As a visible minority in tech, I'm simply more attracted to companies where I feel l won't stick out like a sore thumb. Of course I want to hired for my qualifications, but I'm only applying to companies that can meet _my_ requirements as well.

Re: Getting to work on diversity at Google

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Curious to see granularity by job type - ie engineers vs sales.

I'm going to guess that a huge majority of that 30% female workforce is in HR, marketing, and other non-engineering roles.

That's one of the interesting things. Statistically HR has a similar gender ratio as engineering, only reversed -- 72% of all HR professionals are women (http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.pdf).

Re: Getting to work on diversity at Google

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I'm always confused by the vagueness of these diversity PR efforts.

When you consciously want to improve something, you set goals for yourself, and then figure out ways to meet those goals. Then people can hold you accountable.

Google doesn't seem to have done any of that. They made a start in choosing what they're going to measure, but I don't understand it. For example, I don't think "Black" is an ethnicity. The differences between a black South African and someone from Egypt is huge, let alone a third generation American.

Also, I notice Google didn't include anything about gender in their diversity graphs, and I think everyone believes gender and sexual orientation contribute a valuable difference in perspective. I'm curious as to why they chose to exclude gay, transgendered, straight, and everyone in between and outside those labels from this push.

And then, even if they define all the categories of diversity they want, how the hell do they determine what their targets are for all the different demographics?

Re: Getting to work on diversity at Google

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It's {{current_year}} and people are still asking, "why does diversity matter?" Diversity matters for a lot of reasons. Perhaps most importantly, demographic diversity is strongly correlated with diversity in points of view. You want the people building your products to come from many walks of life. Remember how Google+ had significant uptake in the rich white tech dude demographic? Not a coincidence. If you want the…

"Remember how Google+ had significant uptake in the rich white tech dude demographic? Not a coincidence."

The founders of Twitter and Facebook are mostly rich white dudes and don't seem to be having this problem.

Re: Getting to work on diversity at Google

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It's great to be open and all, but they never mention what their goal is. Do Google believe diversity is good for workplace cohesion, their own social mobility goals, good corporate moral policy, etc.? The data is interesting in it's own right but I don't better understand where Google is going with diversity; I only understand where Google currently stands.

As a Google employee, the reasons I hear is that we'd like the diversity of our workforce to more accurately reflect the diversity of our users, so we can serve them better.

I think this is a very interesting response. If it's true, then their diversity goal will be reached when the makeup of Google workforce is representative of the world population (assuming world population correlates well with Google user population). Therefore, focusing on bringing more women in to tech is a very good goal since women may make up 50% of Google users. Secondary and third goals would be to hire more representatives from Asia and Africa

Re: Getting to work on diversity at Google

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> That's 30,580 blacks and hispanics[1].

For all degrees qualifying as science and engineering. If only 5% of those are in computer science that's only 1,529 people. There are a lot of companies vying for those 1,529 people. Let's also not forget that not all of those 1,529 graduates will actually be capable of qualifying for a job at Google further reducing the quantity.

I'm not surprised at all by Google's numbers having actually seen their hiring process from the HR side as well as that of dozens of other companies in technology and other industries.

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