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Is Dvorak a Professional Troll?

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Re: Is Dvorak a Professional Troll?

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I listen to No Agenda (JCD & Adam Curry) primarily for entertainment value. My gf and I spend quite a few minutes every week mocking their ignorance. The political stuff is blatantly biased and the faux naive outrage is annoying to the point that I skip most of it, especially the clips. The H1N1 coverage is actually rather an antidote to hysteria - they don't think it's as serious as all that - the hysteria more relates to untested vaccine.

Mostly, though, I just listen for the anecdotes that are actually grounded in personal experience. I don't take either of them seriously in the least. I'd be willing to bet that a significant fraction of their audience is similar (though no doubt there's a larger than average loony fringe too).

Re: Is Dvorak a Professional Troll?

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post #4

Yes.

I believe he is. However, I believe a lot of news organizations/blog owners are trying to do it these days. They will have very controversial/eye catching headlines with no substance in the article to gain more traction. Dvorak is a few steps ahead, he tries to justify those headlines by pulling fake data.

I don't think he's faking data. I think it's more a very strong case of bias confirmation, lazy thinking and lazy sourcing.

Re: Is Dvorak a Professional Troll?

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His confession cleared up my doubts. Text book definition of a troll. Direct link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAWDYaWAVQQ If someone is a repeat offender, you better blacklist them if you value your time.

For sure - I'd bait Mac users too, were I in the same situation, as fanboy fealty to any corporate entity is worthy of little more than mockery.

Re: Is Dvorak a Professional Troll?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possible. But people like Hannity purposefully edit videos (President Obama's speeches, for example), twist the facts - that seems trollish to me. But I guess, they get paid to do that. Sad thing is, they are good at it (judging by the audience of Fox network)

Fox could be more accurate than much of the rest of the media (their manipulations are presumably equally as deliberate and they'll deny their bias despite the fact the vast majority openly support Democrats - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/scalliwag/200908/why-mos... ) and I suspect that better explains their audience (but also the decline of the mainstream media as a whole). There's a reason more people read t…

Post is -2. This is one of those times when a disagreement should be followed by a reason. He cited his reasons, what are yours? Is Psychology Today full of propaganda? Is UCLA a right leaning university? Why do you disagree?

Re: Is Dvorak a Professional Troll?

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Of course. Most journalists are a mix of troll & entertainer. In this case Dvorak is using the classic tactic of an opinion framed into a factual context. The truth of the situation is the vast majority of government appointments, at all levels, are political in nature. Agenda & policy comes from the top -- these people just go out and work on the President's behalf using political skill, personal connections, reputation, etc, etc. That's how the game works.

Re: Is Dvorak a Professional Troll?

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post #25

Yes.

Yes he is. He also speaks his mind like every fat-mouthed, intelligent American from Franklin to Vidal did. So shut your trap and get on with life. lol.

I'n not sure you are aware of the irony of telling someone "shut your trap" while defending Dvorak’s freedom of speech.

Also, from the guidelines: Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation.

Re: Is Dvorak a Professional Troll?

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Can't the same thing be said about people like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter? They twist and turn facts, drum up controversy and spread hate/fear.

Oh, definitely. But they might not be trolling on purpose; there is the off chance that they actually believe the stuff they're saying.

Rush definitely trolls on purpose--he was even offensive analyzing football. He has just mastered the art of trolling in a way that makes people want to listen.
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