What bothers me about these ads is the rigid set of arbitrary features the consumer "has to have". A laptop is a complicated technical product, so certain features are going to affect the price tag. A $700 laptop is reasonable, but a $700 laptop with a 17" screen is going to be making hefty compromises somewhere else. I have never seen a commercial where battery life, weight, durability, maintenance, or lifespan was a "requirement". Call Apple overpriced if you like, but these commercials are strongly encouraging people to make poor purchases. $1,000 may seem like a lot to these customers, but amortized over 3 to 5 years, its less than $600 every 1 ~ 2 years.
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#22The problem is in just about any off-the-shelf PeeCee laptop you will find only a 6-bit-per-color display, which, if you do any sort of color or print work is just no good. Apple notebooks, however, by virtue of being aimed at graphics professionals, are bound to have superior 8-bit displays and... oh. Oh, right. Oh, crud.
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#23I think the issue here is that Apple is pissed that the ads claim the actors are real people. They're paid actors pretending to be consumers -- and that's false advertising. (Or misleading to be lenient) If the actor is a real person (and not an actor) why is he in Night of The Museum 2 and Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist?
"Apple is pissed that the ads claim the actors are real people."
What I read is that Apple lowered the price of some of its models by $100, thus making the ads obsolete. The lawyer's call (if any) was probably suggesting that the ads were misleading if they referred to non-current pricing without a massive asterix and disclaimer.
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#24From the very beginning of GUIs, all the way up to now, Microsoft's attempts at copying Apple's lead have just ended up creating cargo-cult operating systems. Yes, $450 sounds like a better price than $1200, and yes, they both look pretty with their eye candy. But what you are getting is fundamentally different; it is cargo-cult design. With a Mac, you get stuff done. With a PC, you get less stuff done, as you run in…
With a Mac, you get stuff done. With a PC, you get less stuff done, as you run into all the issues that come up with cargo-cult technology.
I don't know about you, but I nuke-and-pave any laptop I come into possession of with Linux or NetBSD.
Shit gets done on my laptops.
Re: Apple Wanted Microsoft Ads Yanked
#25From the very beginning of GUIs, all the way up to now, Microsoft's attempts at copying Apple's lead have just ended up creating cargo-cult operating systems. Yes, $450 sounds like a better price than $1200, and yes, they both look pretty with their eye candy. But what you are getting is fundamentally different; it is cargo-cult design. With a Mac, you get stuff done. With a PC, you get less stuff done, as you run in…
That's why I use an Alto.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, I value the build. Those cheap PC laptops don't have a unibody aluminum case or magsafe, and frankly, I don't trust their component choices, or time to research it. I can get full instructions to take apart any Mac at ifixit.com, but for a PC, it's extremely hard to get the service manual.
You just nailed it on the head. The only other PC manufacturer with decent build is Lenovo with the ThinkPads - and those will run you a pretty penny also (well, $1100+ for a decent setup anyway) Quality stuff costs money, hardly a surprise, but what is surprising is how many people believe there is a free lunch to be had. You would not believe the number of people I've talked to who insist that BMWs have the same pa…
It depends on what you value as quality. Many of the things you guys have mentioned is either cosmetic, or used to preserve my computer far past its average lifespan...(with advancements in tech I have to get a new computer at least every 5 yrs. The cheapest PC with non brand hardware will last you that easily...
Cae in point, I bought my cousin an emachines computer for $299 three years ago, and the only problem she's had in all of this time is with trojans (she downloads everything).
I bought my mac in 2005 for 2400 (I loooove my monitor though)and I feel soooooo outdated. So I recently got a MUCH stronger PC for under 600 bucks. I wanted a mac, but the comparable Mac was $1900.
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#27From the very beginning of GUIs, all the way up to now, Microsoft's attempts at copying Apple's lead have just ended up creating cargo-cult operating systems. Yes, $450 sounds like a better price than $1200, and yes, they both look pretty with their eye candy. But what you are getting is fundamentally different; it is cargo-cult design. With a Mac, you get stuff done. With a PC, you get less stuff done, as you run in…
With a Mac, you get stuff done. With a PC, you get less stuff done, as you run into all the issues that come up with cargo-cult technology. I don't know about you, but I nuke-and-pave any laptop I come into possession of with Linux or NetBSD. Shit gets done on my laptops.
Exactly... This is really off base...
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#28I don't see where Apple gets off charging more for their computers. They're garbage. That reminds me of the youtube video of the guy flipping out because his Apple crashed again. If one has the choice between a PC and a Mac with similar hardware features, and pays the extra money for the Mac, they freaking deserve it. And saying you buy the Mac because OS X is better? Are you freakin' kidding me? That's the most ridi…
Care to give us any data points to back up your broad unsubstantiated claims? They're certainly at odds with my own experience.
Wow. I wish I can vote down more than once...
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#29I don't see where Apple gets off charging more for their computers. They're garbage. That reminds me of the youtube video of the guy flipping out because his Apple crashed again. If one has the choice between a PC and a Mac with similar hardware features, and pays the extra money for the Mac, they freaking deserve it. And saying you buy the Mac because OS X is better? Are you freakin' kidding me? That's the most ridi…
Care to give us any data points to back up your broad unsubstantiated claims? They're certainly at odds with my own experience.
Hehe, I knew I'd lose some points for that one. All the die-hard apple users constantly bash what I use, so I decided to give 'em some back. If its so great, why is its market share at such a low percentage? I realize its all personal preference, while you like your Mac, I can't stand the sight of one, but I've obviously used both and a PC is far superior. Its really more about how I despise Apple as a whole, more than anything. They're closed-mindedness will eventually lead to their downfall. Developers have poured blood, sweat and tears into creating apps for the iPhone, that make the device do more than Apple ever dreamed of, only to have them rejected from the app store because Apple is threatened by them. They get the 'usage of undocumented APIs' excuse. The only thing I've ever heard spoken positively about a Mac is that they're 'good for media', and I don't even believe that. Also, its all fun and games when they air their commercial, publicly bashing PC's, but they whine like a bitch when someone else does it? I just can't bring myself to purchase anything from a company like that, not even if the product was decent, which it isn't.
Re: Apple Wanted Microsoft Ads Yanked
#30From the very beginning of GUIs, all the way up to now, Microsoft's attempts at copying Apple's lead have just ended up creating cargo-cult operating systems. Yes, $450 sounds like a better price than $1200, and yes, they both look pretty with their eye candy. But what you are getting is fundamentally different; it is cargo-cult design. With a Mac, you get stuff done. With a PC, you get less stuff done, as you run in…
Had to downvote you for blatant fanboyism with no substantiation. I'm a Mac user too, and I dislike Windows strongly, but if you're going to bash Windows please do so with more backup than vague references to cargo cults (which as an analogy doesn't even make sense).
I get stuff done on a Mac, and I get stuff done on a PC just as well. I dislike the amount of maintenance that needs to be done in Windows, and the disjointed UI decisions, which is why I dislike it. Still, to say that people are less productive in Windows is blatantly false.