Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes • Hacker News Board

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by eldavido » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:00 AM UTC

ArekDymalski wrote: post #10

Tim Cook describing the Surface as a “sorta-tablet, sorta-PC” thing, reminds my Steve Ballmer mocking the iPhone few yrs ago. In both cases I find it immature and short-sighted.

Agree 100%. That Apple is even acknowledging Microsoft is a big deal; the best companies act as if their competitors don't exist.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by moystard » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:01 AM UTC

Should we encourage that as users, this quote war between Apple, Google, Microsoft and co? They just play the game of Apple fanboys in this particular case, and I find that immature and totally useless.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by stonith » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:05 AM UTC

ArekDymalski wrote: post #10

Tim Cook describing the Surface as a “sorta-tablet, sorta-PC” thing, reminds my Steve Ballmer mocking the iPhone few yrs ago. In both cases I find it immature and short-sighted.

From a hardware perspective being half and half is fine, I think the criticism of the surface is that the interface and software is optimised for neither paradigm and the device suffers as a result. Apple may well release a Mac Air with a touchscreen, but I doubt it will run in IOS mode and in OSX mode, it will more likely pick one and stick with it.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by ddebernardy » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:06 AM UTC

guelo wrote: post #14

Apple will say that tablet/laptop hybrids are dumb right up until they announce their own. In fact, I would bet money that the Macbook/iPad convergence is already in the works.

Perhaps.

But then, as it occasionally happens, they might also deliver something overwhelmingly superior to anything around.

As Gruber recently commented on the Galaxy Gear: "About the best you could expect from Samsung without having anything to copy from Apple: overpriced, ugly, laggy UI, terrible battery life, dubious utility." (Come to think of it, that seems to fit the Surface quite well.)

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by MaysonL » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:07 AM UTC

ArekDymalski wrote: post #10

Tim Cook describing the Surface as a “sorta-tablet, sorta-PC” thing, reminds my Steve Ballmer mocking the iPhone few yrs ago. In both cases I find it immature and short-sighted.

Yeah, it kinda reminds me of the way Jobs mocked netbooks, too.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by superbaconman » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:07 AM UTC

the segmentation of consumers makes the whole debate boil down to who will you make the most cash. I think apple has a solid hold and doesn't really need to worry in regards to the consumer market. but developers are going linux meaning more sales for PC vendors (plus Microsoft since they have default license sales on that hardware). Both camps have a solid consumer base and at this point I wouldn't bet against either.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by martin1b » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:25 AM UTC

Interesting how Apple is now acknowledging MSFT. Not classy and shows they consider them a threat enough to 'assault' them.

And the love affair between the press and Apple continues...

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by martin1b » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:28 AM UTC

Fuzzwah wrote: post #4

I thought one of the crushing quotes would be able how much more magical the ipad is when compared to a surface device.

And it comes in pink, purple and gold!!!

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by brimanning » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:45 AM UTC

monsterix wrote: post #9

mehwoot wrote: post #3

Now you can create a document on an iPad, edit it on a Mac, and even share it with a friend who’s stuck on a PC. Yeah, cause google docs has completely destroyed Office.

Last check, Google Docs didn't work on the iPad Safari. Has that changed?

Not sure about the browser, but the app is decent, while limited (no charts in spreadsheets comes to mind).

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

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Post by JimmaDaRustla » Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 1:59 AM UTC

eldavido wrote: post #5

motti_s wrote: post #2

I don't get the big deal with free OS X updates. Apple sells hardware at a premium and you get the software with it. You can't buy Apple software, so why should you be able to buy software upgrades? It should have always been free, just like iOS upgrades are free.

The comparison isn't germane anyway. Apple charges $20-30 for something Microsoft calls a "service pack", which they've always given away for free. I just downloaded Windows 8.1 -- no cost. Amazing how these guys spin stuff and people just eat it up.

Yup - making it sound like paying for software is bad. Considering how long Windows 7 is lasting me, it was worth every penny since I can transfer it between devices!