Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

venturebeat.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 35 posts

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

#11

Post by monsterix »

ripter wrote: post #8
mehwoot wrote: post #3

Now you can create a document on an iPad, edit it on a Mac, and even share it with a friend who’s stuck on a PC. Yeah, cause google docs has completely destroyed Office.

In a lot of places it has. I can't even remember the last time I opened anything in Office. At work people share links to google docs instead of sending docs.

IMHO, people still send the docs or portable files especially when they have to share final and binding contracts. There is quite a bit of lifecycle of a document after it has been created on Google Docs!

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

#12

Post by ArekDymalski »

DrJokepu wrote: post #6
mehwoot wrote: post #3

Now you can create a document on an iPad, edit it on a Mac, and even share it with a friend who’s stuck on a PC. Yeah, cause google docs has completely destroyed Office.

In my environment less and less people use Office and more and more people use Google Docs. Not because Google Docs are better than Office (they’re worse) but because for a lot of people it just feels like a lot less hassle to create and share documents using Google Docs. If I was Microsoft I would be worried, thing like this tend to get amplified over time.

Yeah, GDocs wins in terms of collaboration: comments, revisions etc.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

#15

Post by anigbrowl »

It's good marketing and I don't blame them for hitting MS where it hurts, but on the other hand this is the same company that wants customers to pay $3000 for a desktop model.

EDIT well a tower model, but you get the point. The Mac Tube reminds me of the G4 Cube.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

#16

Post by eldavido »

gesman wrote: post #7

Apple is after consumers with their new set of never ending, shiny, made in china toys. That's all cool. With Ballmer and his me-too copycatting and being always late to the party strategy gone soon, Microsoft better (and likely) will stop playing gadget and widget games and refocus on enterprise software and services department as well as cloud strategy.

Remember when "cool new government technology" was a thing (in movies)? I do.

There's a huge debate going on in Redmond right now (ex-MS employee here) on whether to focus on big, rich, slower-moving enterprises, or faster-moving consumer tech.

Microsoft has rightly realized that consumer tech (not big companies/government) is setting the agenda for the path of technology, and they're going to fight tooth and nail to remain relevant to consumers. I think they have the right idea commercially.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

#17

Post by na85 »

ripter wrote: post #8
mehwoot wrote: post #3

Now you can create a document on an iPad, edit it on a Mac, and even share it with a friend who’s stuck on a PC. Yeah, cause google docs has completely destroyed Office.

In a lot of places it has. I can't even remember the last time I opened anything in Office. At work people share links to google docs instead of sending docs.

Excel is still king of its domain, though.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

#18

Post by moystard »

ripter wrote: post #8
mehwoot wrote: post #3

Now you can create a document on an iPad, edit it on a Mac, and even share it with a friend who’s stuck on a PC. Yeah, cause google docs has completely destroyed Office.

In a lot of places it has. I can't even remember the last time I opened anything in Office. At work people share links to google docs instead of sending docs.

I am always fascinated by people sharing corporate documents on Google Docs... It blows my mind to put that in the cloud, than allow people to share if among themselves, so if any of them gets his/her account hacked, the hacker will have access to company's corporate secrets... And that's without assuming that Google has access to those as well.

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

#19

Post by christoph »

mehwoot wrote: post #3

Now you can create a document on an iPad, edit it on a Mac, and even share it with a friend who’s stuck on a PC. Yeah, cause google docs has completely destroyed Office.

Not really sure it's a completely fair comparison.

I've seen a huge trend recently in people using Keynote over PowerPoint. Everything out the box simply looks and "feels" better. Last time I checked, Google Docs didn't let people start making up the presentation on their laptop and then finish it off on the train on their tablet, with no internet connection [1]. In fact I don't think I've ever seen anyone give a presentation to a room from Google Docs, but maybe that's just me?

It also doesn't easily allow people to present to a room with the help of iPhones & iPads to cue/preview the next slide.

Google Docs is amazing, but I think Apple went after them today as well - let's not forget the big bullet hurled in their direction [2].

I'll still be amazed to see any immediate, large scale shift away from Excel anytime soon though.

[1] - https://support.google.com/drive/answer/1628467?hl=en

[2] - https://www.apple.com/iwork-for-icloud/

Re: Here’s how Apple assaulted Microsoft today — in three crushing quotes

#20

Post by xarball »

motti_s wrote: post #2

I don't get the big deal with free OS X updates. Apple sells hardware at a premium and you get the software with it. You can't buy Apple software, so why should you be able to buy software upgrades? It should have always been free, just like iOS upgrades are free.

When you put it that way it doesn't sound nearly as impressive:

Real World: A) Upgrading the software on our hardware costs money. B) Upgrading the software on our hardware does not cost money.

Reality Distortion Field: A) Our software upgrades cost money. B) Our software upgrades are free! (Look how nice we are now!)

In a way, it reminds me of enterprise updates and services...

My NAS is about 4 years old now, yet I'm still getting brand new software for it, because making that available to me as a brand-loyal customer comes at no extra cost to the manufacturer, because the value is in the upcoming hardware.

(Additionally, I'm less inclined to upgrade my old software when I'm forced to purchase hardware to get access to the same software later anyway)

Post reply on HN