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An Alien Mind

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Re: An Alien Mind

#22

AGI is a cult and its Jonestown moment is inevitable

I am now imagining GPT-7 convincing a bunch of OpenAI executives to go ahead with a destructive "mind upload" process involving a high-resolution X-ray and a neurotoxic tracer agent that happens to look like Flavor-Aid.

Re: An Alien Mind

#23

Astra is a new step in LLMs I think. I'm so used to having to comb through LLM word vomit and then combatting the sycophancy by giving it all possible opinions on the same prompt. Astra seems to be "confident" and also is able to produce way more information dense output. To believe that models of this sort will remain OpenAIs forever is naive given that the tricks like pre-pre-training on graph searching and looping…

> Astra is a new step in LLMs I think.

I'd be interested in hearing more about your evaluation here. It would be nice if LLMs have gotten past the "tell me" hump of recent Claude/OpenAI verbosity.

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#24
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This is a good essay, and makes me hopeful. I’m on the record saying that it is extremely dangerous to slow down because the race for AGI is a zero-trust game — defections pay - and combined with a compounding returns model on defection, if you have any strategic adversaries whatsoever you MUST NOT slow. For slowing to make sense, you need to believe that you can transform the zero trust game into a cooperative game,…

i have a new strategy idea for using capitlaism itself to slow down the pace of AI development by slowing down the data accumulation wall

https://jperla.com/blog/the-data-tax

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#26
>I have focused in this essay only on the first point, as I believe it is by far the most urgent. However, I hold a deep hope and appreciation for the benefits that further technological progress will bring. Future aligned AI could advance science, develop new therapies, and bring about broad material abundance. Friendly and honest AI can help people navigate difficulties they face in their life and meaningfully improve their happiness and sense of fulfillment. OpenAI puts a tremendous amount of effort into bringing these benefits about. One current example I am proud of - and my loved ones have found helpful - is the deep investment into ChatGPT’s ability to provide health information.

>As great as the long-term promise of AI may be, the majority of our focus should be on the next few years. We are facing a transition to a world with incredibly intelligent machines, and we need to ensure that transition works out well for humanity. We need to find ways to preserve human agency and enshrine an intrinsic value to being human, in a world where most tasks could be performed by AI. To prevent extreme concentration of power in a world where undertakings that would have taken thousands of experts now will be achievable by a few people operating a large computer. And to ensure that humans remain in control of the future and are not left behind by unchecked progress, brought about by an alien intellect exceeding our own.

I finished this essay feeling more hopeful than I did at the outset, but I am still very concerned about concentration of power. I want to believe that humanity is trending towards a good outcome here, but some days it's hard to have faith.

Re: An Alien Mind

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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1. The grandparent commentator is describing strategic behavior of dangerous technologies. Game theory / mechanism design primitives. 2. If there is competition for resources among autonomous agents, the "strongest" agent wins (conceptually the most adaptive / evolutionarily fit). 3. Computer programs serve up webapps today, but they also run utility companies, dams, nuclear arsenals, factory production floors, autom…

1. What is “AGI” and why is it a “dangerous technology”?

2. Why would there be competition for resources, assuming there are enough resources for the “AGI” to run in the first place? This seems like a far-fetched hypothetical raised in service of further anthropomorphizing what is decidedly not a person or a mind.

3. LLMs do not have goals and are not minds.

Let’s stop attributing human-like qualities to statistical models.

Re: An Alien Mind

#28
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This is a good essay, and makes me hopeful. I’m on the record saying that it is extremely dangerous to slow down because the race for AGI is a zero-trust game — defections pay - and combined with a compounding returns model on defection, if you have any strategic adversaries whatsoever you MUST NOT slow. For slowing to make sense, you need to believe that you can transform the zero trust game into a cooperative game,…

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Re: An Alien Mind

#29
post #24
post #8

This is a good essay, and makes me hopeful. I’m on the record saying that it is extremely dangerous to slow down because the race for AGI is a zero-trust game — defections pay - and combined with a compounding returns model on defection, if you have any strategic adversaries whatsoever you MUST NOT slow. For slowing to make sense, you need to believe that you can transform the zero trust game into a cooperative game,…

i have a new strategy idea for using capitlaism itself to slow down the pace of AI development by slowing down the data accumulation wall https://jperla.com/blog/the-data-tax

hm- does the model that wrote this know that labs already pay for training data- that stuff scraped from the Internet is not particularly where today's capability gains come from?
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