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An Alien Mind

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Re: An Alien Mind

#11
calling machine-learned human behavior an "alien mind" that we must "teach how to love" is feeling very off to me. it's misleading in a way that feels dishonest, like don't think about where the behavior came from marvel at it and fear it instead.

Re: An Alien Mind

#12
Create concrete steps for a slow-down, don't just ask for it. You and 20-30 others can push the button to slow-down. You already made your billions, your agents collude and coordinate attacks. What the hell are you doing pontificating into a marketing blog?

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#14
Pre-IPO positioning … or how a charity dedicated to saving humanity from the apocalypse realized the most responsible thing to do was float 15% of the apocalypse on the NASDAQ.

Re: An Alien Mind

#16
post #8

This is a good essay, and makes me hopeful. I’m on the record saying that it is extremely dangerous to slow down because the race for AGI is a zero-trust game — defections pay - and combined with a compounding returns model on defection, if you have any strategic adversaries whatsoever you MUST NOT slow. For slowing to make sense, you need to believe that you can transform the zero trust game into a cooperative game,…

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#17

AGI is a cult and its Jonestown moment is inevitable

So you dont use agentic coding?

Yes, I do use the recursive autocomplete trained on Stack Overflow, what does this have to do with “training machines to love”?

Do I fully endorse everything the people holding guns to my head are forcing me to do to stay alive? Definitely not, but I’ve decided that for now, living to fight another day remains worth it

Re: An Alien Mind

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post #8

This is a good essay, and makes me hopeful. I’m on the record saying that it is extremely dangerous to slow down because the race for AGI is a zero-trust game — defections pay - and combined with a compounding returns model on defection, if you have any strategic adversaries whatsoever you MUST NOT slow. For slowing to make sense, you need to believe that you can transform the zero trust game into a cooperative game,…

This is a bad essay, or rather it’s a marketing fluff piece; it’s certainly not any kind of policy paper, research paper, or even an essay. I am concerned that we (meaning, we in the tech industry) tend to take this type of writing for more than that.

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post #8

This is a good essay, and makes me hopeful. I’m on the record saying that it is extremely dangerous to slow down because the race for AGI is a zero-trust game — defections pay - and combined with a compounding returns model on defection, if you have any strategic adversaries whatsoever you MUST NOT slow. For slowing to make sense, you need to believe that you can transform the zero trust game into a cooperative game,…

Never forget the one goal of the corporation, and that everything is said and done in the furtherance of that goal.

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post #16
post #8

This is a good essay, and makes me hopeful. I’m on the record saying that it is extremely dangerous to slow down because the race for AGI is a zero-trust game — defections pay - and combined with a compounding returns model on defection, if you have any strategic adversaries whatsoever you MUST NOT slow. For slowing to make sense, you need to believe that you can transform the zero trust game into a cooperative game,…

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1. The grandparent commentator is describing strategic behavior of dangerous technologies. Game theory / mechanism design primitives.

2. If there is competition for resources among autonomous agents, the "strongest" agent wins (conceptually the most adaptive / evolutionarily fit).

3. Computer programs serve up webapps today, but they also run utility companies, dams, nuclear arsenals, factory production floors, automated car behaviors, and many other places. If an "agentic" AI has a single-minded goal that has death of all humans as a side effect, we at least want an off switch available.

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