Should domestic workers not be surveilled while doing their job? I get the threat of pervasive AI but this hardly seems like it.
That depends entirely on whether you want to culture a humane trust society or a transactional surveillance society.
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#22Should domestic workers not be surveilled while doing their job? I get the threat of pervasive AI but this hardly seems like it.
Forget domestic workers, shouldn't you be surveilled whenever you're alone and unattended? When the panopticon is flipped inwards, everyone scrapes together an excuse for why their solitude is more important than others.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
That depends entirely on whether you want to culture a humane trust society or a transactional surveillance society.
I think everyone wants a high trust society but you can't just remove all guardrails and expect that to be the result. The causality goes the other way.
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That depends entirely on whether you want to culture a humane trust society or a transactional surveillance society.
I’m not sure an absence of surveillance is what creates “humane trust”. I’m certain we had locks on doors and security guards before the internet.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
That depends entirely on whether you want to culture a humane trust society or a transactional surveillance society.
I’m not sure an absence of surveillance is what creates “humane trust”. I’m certain we had locks on doors and security guards before the internet.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not sure an absence of surveillance is what creates “humane trust”. I’m certain we had locks on doors and security guards before the internet.
Surveillance is decidedly and completely unlike locks.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
That depends entirely on whether you want to culture a humane trust society or a transactional surveillance society.
I’m not sure an absence of surveillance is what creates “humane trust”. I’m certain we had locks on doors and security guards before the internet.
Many of the high-trust smaller societies before those locks were actually pretty low privacy.
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#28The authors use prose and structure to look like a scientific study, but they only interviewed some domestic workers and didn’t consider anything else, like the homeowners.
I’m sorry, but if I invite a contractor into my house I’ve been putting temporary cameras up. It’s helpful to see when they come and go and it’s invaluable if anything goes wrong and contractors start pointing fingers at each other. Would be great if we lived in a world where everyone was trustworthy without a second thought, but we don’t. If you don’t want to put cameras up in your own home then I support you 100%. If a contractor doesn’t want to work in my home with cameras then I completely support their decision too.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think everyone wants a high trust society but you can't just remove all guardrails and expect that to be the result. The causality goes the other way.
I would absolutely support the surveillance of CEOs and board members. They have demonstrated themselves, as a class, to not be trustworthy. I think as a society, we should be reviewing Alex Karp's decision making for instance.
I've heard of some bad behaviour. I haven't heard of millions of cases of bad behaviour. Do you have numbers to back up your assertions?