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Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Post by jitl »

yodon wrote: post #7

The code appears to be unavailable. This includes not just wordgard but all the ProseMirror code as well. If the motivation for moving off GitHub was "GH is down too much", it might be worth tracking how many 9's of uptime is lost in the self-hosted case.

Works for me:

    $ git clone https://code.haverbeke.berlin/wordgard/wordgard.git
    Cloning into 'wordgard'...
    remote: Enumerating objects: 8274, done.
    remote: Counting objects: 100% (8274/8274), done.
    remote: Compressing objects: 100% (4747/4747), done.
    remote: Total 8274 (delta 6049), reused 5002 (delta 3464), pack-reused 0 (from 0)
    Receiving objects: 100% (8274/8274), 1.61 MiB | 2.93 MiB/s, done.
    Resolving deltas: 100% (6049/6049), done.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Post by Garlef »

exceptione wrote: post #5

I think most people would love to the know the 'why'. This page discusses differences with prosemirror and is the closest I got to that question: ( https://wordgard.net/docs/prosemirror/ ). One thing to note is that there is not an upgrade path. Many concepts are shared with prosemirror, but it seems that switching means doing quite some work (correct me if I am wrong). Obsidian is based on Code Mirror so I guess the…

From the blog:

> I'm not all that fond of the ProseMirror pun anymore either (it's CodeMirror but for prose, get it?)

So... It's time for someone to create Codegard, i guess?

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Post by Garlef »

maxloh wrote: post #16
exceptione wrote: post #5

I think most people would love to the know the 'why'. This page discusses differences with prosemirror and is the closest I got to that question: ( https://wordgard.net/docs/prosemirror/ ). One thing to note is that there is not an upgrade path. Many concepts are shared with prosemirror, but it seems that switching means doing quite some work (correct me if I am wrong). Obsidian is based on Code Mirror so I guess the…

"Why is it worth the switching cost?" is the genuine question I have too. Or more importantly, why not just make it ProseMirror v2? The landing page needs more information about the "why" rather than the "what".

From the blog post:

> A ProseMirror 2.0 with an incompatible interface would amount to the same but make it ambiguous what people mean when referring to ProseMirror. Trying to graft stuff on in a backwards-compatible way as an 1.x version would produce a compromised win32-style mess.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Post by john_strinlai »

lewisjoe wrote: post #20

This is amusing as well as slightly scary. Prosemirror over the years has become the backbone of editors on the web. ChatGPT uses it. Gemini uses it. Linked chat and feed composers are Prosemirror powered. Literally every serious product uses Prosemirror for composing text on the web. There is an entire YC company built on top of Prosemirror (Tiptap). The thought that Prosemirror is no more in active development is s…

>The thought that Prosemirror is no more in active development is scary.

From their blog: "I'm still proud of ProseMirror, and ProseMirror isn't going anywhere—it will continue to be maintained."

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Post by curtisblaine »

lewisjoe wrote: post #20

This is amusing as well as slightly scary. Prosemirror over the years has become the backbone of editors on the web. ChatGPT uses it. Gemini uses it. Linked chat and feed composers are Prosemirror powered. Literally every serious product uses Prosemirror for composing text on the web. There is an entire YC company built on top of Prosemirror (Tiptap). The thought that Prosemirror is no more in active development is s…

The only scary thought is that all these important operations don't have a plan B if prosemirror, a software they don't write, don't own and presumably don't pay, goes away.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Post by justusthane »

jiffygist wrote: post #25

I don't like WYSIWYG on the web. You do a long and tedious formatting of a forum post, then close the tab and it's all gone. I prefer to use a local text editor then Ctrl+V into web form. Which I can with markdown

I've seen this solved in some platforms with localstorage, so that it automatically saves your "draft" as you type and seamlessly restores it if you re-open the page. It was a really nice surprise the first time I experienced it (after closing a tab by mistake).
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