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Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Between this and Minneapolis I guess the water temperature just keeps on being turned up, and us frogs are just chilling out in our warm baths.

Why has this analogy been repeated so much lately? Did someone famous use it or something?

Edit: just to clarify, I'm not denying it's appropriate; it just seems remarkable to me that it's being used so often lately.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Between this and Minneapolis I guess the water temperature just keeps on being turned up, and us frogs are just chilling out in our warm baths.

That was one of the main plot points in Andor. The rebellion had to raise the temperature faster, more dramatically, in order to wake people up. To make the frogs realize it was hot and jump out. Lonni Jung: "You realize what you've set in motion? People will suffer." Luthen Rael: "That's the plan." Luthen believes that to succeed, they need to anger the Empire and make them come down hard on the citizens, which in t…

Woah woah woah! I still haven't watched this. (I know, I know...)

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Not really surprised at this point. After Bush allowed, and Obama pardoned the collateral murder pilots, whistleblowers and journalists in the U.S. have been continually threatened, hazed, jailed and killed at the pleasure of whomever the current president is. This isn't party politics, Bush through Trump, are guilty. This is fascism at its finest...

I think you’re fundamentally right. Trump is obviously the worst we’ve seen yet, but power has been accumulating unchecked in the executive branch’s hands for decades now.

Trump is merely a symptom of the problem that is the Imperial Presidency. If we can’t tackle the problem itself we’ll get another politician doing the exact same shit after Trump.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You must accept that 3 letter agencies have full root access to any Tim Apple or Google device and will use it if they already went far enough to do an FBI raid on a reporter.

This isn't hyperbole. They literally went to the king with gold in hands. There's no WAY they didn't open up their platforms to him.

> They literally went to the king with gold in hands.

Exactly what I was thinking about when I was writing my comment.

I can understand that big corpos are not our friends and are purely money driven, but publicly bribing the president with gold is on a level no one ever expected. Right in line with the Fifa peace price.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is absolutely not normal as the article clearly states. Reporters are very rarely raided in the US under circumstances like these. The problem is that "classified materials" means whatever the government wants it to mean in this context. Is there a journalist you want to target for a particular reason? Just accuse them of handling classified information, which they don't ever have to produce to the public be…

>, this is absolutely not normal On what grounds? Just repeating a BS assertion doesn't make it true. The feds have been abusing journalists like this as long as I've been alive. It's not a lot, it's a trickle of them, maybe one a year or so in recent years. But one raid on one person isn't unprecedented or abnormal in any way. Now if you want to talk about frequency or the minimum size of thorn in side they'll go af…

Not all bad things are the same. Raiding a reporter's house is very much an abnormal act to have taken place.

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“ Agents searched Hannah Natanson’s Virginia home and seized devices in inquiry tied to a classified materials case” Right underneath the headline. That’s pretty normal for the FBI, assuming they had a search warrant.

Can you point to other instances of the FBI raiding homes of journalists to investigate leaks? If not, it's hard to make a compelling case that this is "normal"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Brown

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"Natanson said her work had led to 1,169 new sources, “all current or former federal employees who decided to trust me with their stories”. She said she learned information “people inside government agencies weren’t supposed to tell me”, saying that the intensity of the work nearly “broke” her." Wow. So they're going to plug her phone in to whatever cracking tech they have and pull down the names of everyone who has…

> The following question is "what will they do with the names of the people they pull?". I'll take a shot at the answer -> Charge them with treason. Because that's the country we live in now, and most of us are just sitting by passively watching it happen.

Or they'll have ICE take them and they'll be deported or made to disappear. Some might even end up dying.

That's how the US is right now.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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post #21
post #3

Between this and Minneapolis I guess the water temperature just keeps on being turned up, and us frogs are just chilling out in our warm baths.

Why has this analogy been repeated so much lately? Did someone famous use it or something? Edit: just to clarify, I'm not denying it's appropriate; it just seems remarkable to me that it's being used so often lately.

Because it's appropriate and descriptive?

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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post #14
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“ Agents searched Hannah Natanson’s Virginia home and seized devices in inquiry tied to a classified materials case” Right underneath the headline. That’s pretty normal for the FBI, assuming they had a search warrant.

Can you point to other instances of the FBI raiding homes of journalists to investigate leaks? If not, it's hard to make a compelling case that this is "normal"

>Can you point to other instances of the FBI raiding homes of journalists to investigate leaks?

James Burke, the Veritas guy, the ABC News guy, etc.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Between this and Minneapolis I guess the water temperature just keeps on being turned up, and us frogs are just chilling out in our warm baths.

That was one of the main plot points in Andor. The rebellion had to raise the temperature faster, more dramatically, in order to wake people up. To make the frogs realize it was hot and jump out. Lonni Jung: "You realize what you've set in motion? People will suffer." Luthen Rael: "That's the plan." Luthen believes that to succeed, they need to anger the Empire and make them come down hard on the citizens, which in t…

Reminds me of the West Wing:

C.J. Cregg: Leo, we need to be investigated by someone who wants to kill us just to watch us die. We need someone perceived by the American people to be irresponsible, untrustworthy, partisan, ambitious, and thirsty for the limelight. Am I crazy, or is this not a job for the U. S. House of Representatives?

Leo McGarry: Well, they'll get around to it sooner or later.

C.J. Cregg: So let's make it sooner - let's make it now.

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