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Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by notyourwork »

CodingJeebus wrote: post #8
chasd00 wrote: post #4

“ Agents searched Hannah Natanson’s Virginia home and seized devices in inquiry tied to a classified materials case” Right underneath the headline. That’s pretty normal for the FBI, assuming they had a search warrant.

No, this is absolutely not normal as the article clearly states. Reporters are very rarely raided in the US under circumstances like these. The problem is that "classified materials" means whatever the government wants it to mean in this context. Is there a journalist you want to target for a particular reason? Just accuse them of handling classified information, which they don't ever have to produce to the public be…

Trump keeps that kind of stuff in their guest bathroom, cool. Reporter, raid and straight to jail. What a timeline to witness. Elected officials glut preventing them from doing their duty.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

a2tech wrote: post #3

Between this and Minneapolis I guess the water temperature just keeps on being turned up, and us frogs are just chilling out in our warm baths.

That was one of the main plot points in Andor.

The rebellion had to raise the temperature faster, more dramatically, in order to wake people up. To make the frogs realize it was hot and jump out.

Lonni Jung: "You realize what you've set in motion? People will suffer."

Luthen Rael: "That's the plan."

Luthen believes that to succeed, they need to anger the Empire and make them come down hard on the citizens, which in turn will fuel the rebellion.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by potato3732842 »

CodingJeebus wrote: post #8
chasd00 wrote: post #4

“ Agents searched Hannah Natanson’s Virginia home and seized devices in inquiry tied to a classified materials case” Right underneath the headline. That’s pretty normal for the FBI, assuming they had a search warrant.

No, this is absolutely not normal as the article clearly states. Reporters are very rarely raided in the US under circumstances like these. The problem is that "classified materials" means whatever the government wants it to mean in this context. Is there a journalist you want to target for a particular reason? Just accuse them of handling classified information, which they don't ever have to produce to the public be…

>, this is absolutely not normal

On what grounds? Just repeating a BS assertion doesn't make it true.

The feds have been abusing journalists like this as long as I've been alive. It's not a lot, it's a trickle of them, maybe one a year or so in recent years. But one raid on one person isn't unprecedented or abnormal in any way. Now if you want to talk about frequency or the minimum size of thorn in side they'll go after it might be a different story. But nobody is saying that.

I might think the behavior is despicable and probably also unlawful, and their "they had classified info" excuse is flimsy BS, but it is unfortunately somewhat normal.

The problem is way, way, way worse, way longer running and way more institutionally entrenched than flabbergastingly moronic "these specific people right here right now did misdeeds" surface level assessment may comfortingly imply.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by saghm »

chasd00 wrote: post #4

“ Agents searched Hannah Natanson’s Virginia home and seized devices in inquiry tied to a classified materials case” Right underneath the headline. That’s pretty normal for the FBI, assuming they had a search warrant.

Can you point to other instances of the FBI raiding homes of journalists to investigate leaks? If not, it's hard to make a compelling case that this is "normal"

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

edot wrote: post #2

"Natanson said her work had led to 1,169 new sources, “all current or former federal employees who decided to trust me with their stories”. She said she learned information “people inside government agencies weren’t supposed to tell me”, saying that the intensity of the work nearly “broke” her." Wow. So they're going to plug her phone in to whatever cracking tech they have and pull down the names of everyone who has…

You must accept that 3 letter agencies have full root access to any Tim Apple or Google device and will use it if they already went far enough to do an FBI raid on a reporter.

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Post by bossyTeacher »

chasd00 wrote: post #4

“ Agents searched Hannah Natanson’s Virginia home and seized devices in inquiry tied to a classified materials case” Right underneath the headline. That’s pretty normal for the FBI, assuming they had a search warrant.

As others pointed out, the problem with this is that you end up with a government that can target any reporter by claiming they have "classified materials". No need to prove what those materials are (because they are classified). This is how third world countries choke journalists.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by saghm »

embedding-shape wrote: post #9
withinboredom wrote: post #5

They should have gone to Mar Lago to find their missing classified documents. Do they not watch the news? /s In all seriousness, it sounds like they're trying to stop another Snowden type leak.

> In all seriousness, it sounds like they're trying to stop another Snowden type leak. In what way is what she was doing similar to Snowden? Snowden was a huge bombshell, with droves of material, proving what a lot of people suspected was happening, but had no proof. This journalist seems to have been receiving a ton of "small leaks", of improper firings and a lot of other federal misbehavior, but all within the US,…

Agreed. Snowden also wasn't a journalist but the source himself. Having over 1000 individual sources of information is not at all the same thing.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by HumblyTossed »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #15
edot wrote: post #2

"Natanson said her work had led to 1,169 new sources, “all current or former federal employees who decided to trust me with their stories”. She said she learned information “people inside government agencies weren’t supposed to tell me”, saying that the intensity of the work nearly “broke” her." Wow. So they're going to plug her phone in to whatever cracking tech they have and pull down the names of everyone who has…

You must accept that 3 letter agencies have full root access to any Tim Apple or Google device and will use it if they already went far enough to do an FBI raid on a reporter.

This isn't hyperbole. They literally went to the king with gold in hands. There's no WAY they didn't open up their platforms to him.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by iamtheworstdev »

edot wrote: post #2

"Natanson said her work had led to 1,169 new sources, “all current or former federal employees who decided to trust me with their stories”. She said she learned information “people inside government agencies weren’t supposed to tell me”, saying that the intensity of the work nearly “broke” her." Wow. So they're going to plug her phone in to whatever cracking tech they have and pull down the names of everyone who has…

> The following question is "what will they do with the names of the people they pull?".

I'll take a shot at the answer -> Charge them with treason. Because that's the country we live in now, and most of us are just sitting by passively watching it happen.

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