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Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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"Killing the golden goose" is the phrase that has come to mind repeatedly in the past few years. As someone living in a country that has been brain-draining into the US for decades, I'm quite perplexed at all this. It looks like the next Andrej Karpathy (born in Czechoslovakia, educated in Canada) will be taking their talents somewhere besides the US in the future. Maybe they think they can just cherry-pick the geniu…

The question I think is more interesting is why can't Canada retain talent?

Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is little reason to believe that low hiring will be improved in any significant amount by removal of the H1B pool.

Yeah, it should also be combined with the elimination of OPT, H4 EAD, and H1 visas that are harming the STEM industries in the same way to the tune of 6 million jobs. New grads can't compete with the tax benefits provided by hiring OPT workers.

So... Protectionism, right?

Stupid me, I thought the US was about competition and boldness, a place where a man can work, be good at what he does and be appreciated for it. But it turns out that for many of you it's about the place you happened to be born.

Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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post #20

"Killing the golden goose" is the phrase that has come to mind repeatedly in the past few years. As someone living in a country that has been brain-draining into the US for decades, I'm quite perplexed at all this. It looks like the next Andrej Karpathy (born in Czechoslovakia, educated in Canada) will be taking their talents somewhere besides the US in the future. Maybe they think they can just cherry-pick the geniu…

The question I think is more interesting is why can't Canada retain talent?

The question I think is more interesting is why can't Europe retain talent?

Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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This comment is totally unnecessary. There are tons of skilled American engineers who aren't extremists / activists.

"/ activist"

Where did that polite term come from when referring to white supremacists?

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Around 2016-17 I read on a well-known white supremacist site about how people like Trump and Tucker Carlson are going to be so much more effective at achieving their goals than someone like David Duke who state those goals explicitly. Not in their wildest imagination would they have expected this level of success. Congratulations to you and those folks.

It’s been so successful that stuff out of trumps mouth now aligns pretty closely with what David Duke was saying then.

Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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Half of the Fortune 500 is founded by immigrants or their kids:

https://fortune.com/2025/07/30/latinos-immigration-economy-j...

And H1B workers are paid slightly more on average, not less, than citizen workers. Not to mention that if you account for the cost companies pay to deal with the immigration process (lawyers, fees, etc) they end up being a lot pricier.

The new hatred towards H1B is part of a broader shifting of the Overton window. First hate illegal immigrants. Then ones on visas. Then naturalized citizens. And soon they come to a place where they can deport 100 million, their actual racist goal that the DHS tweeted recently:

https://xcancel.com/DHSgov/status/2006472108222853298

Meanwhile China just launched their new K visa to soak up all the amazing talent the new far right America is pushing away.

Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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Not only are we throwing the baby out with the bathwater, I feel like the current rhetoric in the US doesn’t even acknowledge the existence of the metaphorical baby anymore. The strongest advantage of the US has always been the ability to absorb global talent. I don’t think that is a popular view anymore, and we are instead stuck talking only about stopping abuse that is ultimately still bringing skilled workers to t…

I think anyone working with the global talent can tell you there are absolutely no controls around measuring their quality. The skilled talent simply isn't skilled at all. They are willing to engage in kickback schemes. Even the O1 "genius" visa is being given to onlyfans models. Immigration is completely broken and it's by design.

Your take only applies to recent developments. For the entirety of the H visa program, it has brought in very valuable talent, which stayed here to generate incredible wealth for the country. "onlyfans" is a recent thing. The kickbacks are a relatively new thing. Sure immigration is broken, but that's what happens when the government is intent on breaking the country.
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