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ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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pretty much everything runs faster on Linux than on Windows.

I didn't do any tests myself but based on what I read you still pay a hefty performance penalty when using e.g., a 5090 on Linux.

That's expected. Always use AMD for Linux gaming.

There is some WIP to address it for Nvidia, but it requires new Vulkan features.

See: https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/10/contributions/402/at...

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#22

I wonder if this is why Xbox Series X never achieved a noticeable performance advantage over PlayStation 5, despite having more capable hardware.

I was so excited for the Series X and it's just another crap-tier wannabe gaming PC, with none of the flexibility. It makes me so sad how miserable the XBox has become. I fucking LOVED the 360 back in the day, I used to run home from school to get on Halo 3 and play with friends.

And granted, those same friends and I still play Halo Infinite, but we're all on PCs. Nobody bothers with the goddamn XBox.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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post #10

pretty much everything runs faster on Linux than on Windows.

I use Arch pretty much exclusively these days on my desktop, but this isn't quite true. Most of the time, Proton has a small performance impact (around 5% lower FPS), but some games tend to suffer more. For example Helldivers 2 runs around 10fps lower, which is pretty significant since I only got around 60-70 FPS on Windows at 4K (using a 3090).

Still, Proton is an amazing tool and these days it just works so well. The only games that don't work are those that are intentionally broken by invasive kernel-level anticheats. I won't be buying Battlefield 6, too bad for EA, there are now thousands of other games to play on Linux.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#24
I have the Xbox Ally, Steam Deck, and original Ally.

The original Ally software launch was a disaster. Unbelievable amount of bugs and overall terrible user experience. After 6+ months of updates it was decent.

I figured, hey, maybe they figured it out in advance this time? So I pre-ordered an Xbox Ally.

It is a complete disaster in terms of software. It took 90 minutes to setup and download initial updates on a Google Fiber connection. Things break constantly.

The other day, I got a new error, "Something went wrong and your PIN isn't available." When I try to click anything, it just goes black. After 6 or 7 restarts, it randomly glitches out and takes me right to desktop without any PIN.

It is just constant bullshit like this. The entire experience breaks over, and over, and over. I hate it so much. Back to Steam Deck.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#25

I have the Xbox Ally, Steam Deck, and original Ally. The original Ally software launch was a disaster. Unbelievable amount of bugs and overall terrible user experience. After 6+ months of updates it was decent. I figured, hey, maybe they figured it out in advance this time? So I pre-ordered an Xbox Ally. It is a complete disaster in terms of software. It took 90 minutes to setup and download initial updates on a Goog…

Unfortunately that is what happens when they keep laying off people, and the new interns have hardly done any Windows development.

See the mess on Windows development experience since Project Reunion reboot, or how WinRT transition was completely mismanaged.

But hey Satya got his bonus.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#26

I wonder if this is why Xbox Series X never achieved a noticeable performance advantage over PlayStation 5, despite having more capable hardware.

The Xbox runs on a custom OS derived from Windows Core. Not the same as a consumer version of Windows. [Edit] The answer you’re probably looking for is I/O. The PS5 is much faster than the Series X in terms of getting stuff off disk and actually using it. That more than compensates for the small speed advantage the Series X has.

> derived from Windows Core

if you polish a turd, it's still a turd.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#27

I have the Xbox Ally, Steam Deck, and original Ally. The original Ally software launch was a disaster. Unbelievable amount of bugs and overall terrible user experience. After 6+ months of updates it was decent. I figured, hey, maybe they figured it out in advance this time? So I pre-ordered an Xbox Ally. It is a complete disaster in terms of software. It took 90 minutes to setup and download initial updates on a Goog…

I don't mean to be rude, but why would you give them even more money after screwing it up so bad the first time? You're just rewarding bad behavior at this point.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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post #11
post #5

This has been my experience. Linux+Steam+Proton delivers a more stable and performant Windows API than Windows. And that was on Windows 10 two years ago. I can only imagine things have gotten worse with Windows 11.

I play a lot of older games from 90s and 2000s. They certainly work better on Linux+Wine+DXVK than on Windows.

Not to mention for the different games that need different environments/configurations/libraries it's much easier to manage a bunch of profiles than a bunch of windows installations/VMs.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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post #23
post #10

pretty much everything runs faster on Linux than on Windows.

I use Arch pretty much exclusively these days on my desktop, but this isn't quite true. Most of the time, Proton has a small performance impact (around 5% lower FPS), but some games tend to suffer more. For example Helldivers 2 runs around 10fps lower, which is pretty significant since I only got around 60-70 FPS on Windows at 4K (using a 3090). Still, Proton is an amazing tool and these days it just works so well. T…

You’re comparing a game running on a compatibility layer, running on Linux to a game running directly on Windows. Not quite what the parent comment was stating.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#30

I wonder if this is why Xbox Series X never achieved a noticeable performance advantage over PlayStation 5, despite having more capable hardware.

I also heard that the PlayStation 5 graphics API's are more optimized to the hardware than DirectX is. Not sure if that's true though.
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